SIDNEY IS AN ENABLER. AN ENABLER, GUYS.

Feb 08, 2009 21:11

AKA she found me a whole bunch of clips from the Desolation Row video, which included some of my favorite bits:

Cut for the dial-up users. )

bob bryar, ray toro, mcr will save your soul bitch, mikey the littlest way, gerard way, frank iero

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 02:42:43 UTC
hey so question. desolation row qu'est ce qu'il y a?

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 21:15:38 UTC
(haha. i totes left that last comment while in school)

GONNA GO EAT ME SOME HOME-MADE BAGUETTE BECAUSE IT IS THE NOMZ.

should i refrain from giving you overly cute things to think about?
HEY DID YOU SEE THE NEW TORCHWOOD TRAILER?

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ginnie_jazz February 9 2009, 21:17:39 UTC
I THINK YOU SHOULD BRING ME SOME O' THAT THAR BAGUETTE, YO. MOS DEF.

Yeah, probably. Until I get over Ray Toro's puppy face while hugging an emotional GeeWay. Or Frank Iero and Gerard smooching on Conan O' Brien...or both.

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 21:19:08 UTC
WILL YOU BE AT THE STAIRS TOMORROW?
i am never buying bread again. srs.

TORCHWOOD?

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ginnie_jazz February 9 2009, 21:25:08 UTC
I WAS THERE TODAY. Except probably not really. 'Cause I have rehearsal tomorrow like right after school tomorrow. D:

I DID NOT SEE IT. 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO EXCITED AND THEN HAVE THEM BE LIKE "yeah wait for another kazillion years." ALSO: OWEN?

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 21:31:33 UTC
I WAS NOT. i was busy decorating mme. moran's board. it was great. i wrote on it in big letters.
WELL WHEN YOU ARE THERE, YOU WILL GET BAGUETTE!

is as dead as rocks. for realz this time. unless they bring tosh back. i miss her. she should totally have like a comeback and be like "fuck this" and become a biker chick. then she and owen would totes get together and CJH would be infatuated.
ALSO. there was a lot of yanny bein' adorable and witty. i swooned.

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ginnie_jazz February 9 2009, 21:54:30 UTC
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT. That's seriously just...crap. The guy can't die. The guy is already dead. There was more of a tether on him than just his body. And he was definitely the most interesting character in the show - Gwen's a cheater, Jack's a whore, Ianto's a robot; you don't really see a whole lot of sides of them. Jack's always just...Jack, except for the rare moments where his ages-old tearducts engage. And Ianto comes in two modes: tea boy and desperate 'i can has luvinz?' would-be boyfriend. Owen? Owen had snarky bastard; he had sweetheart; he had gentle fiance; he had stubborn-as-a-mule asshattery; he had knowledgeable doctor and caring friend and womanizer and lover and gentle and caring and hopeful and hopeless. He had actual character depth. I like to try and believe that Davies has more of a brain than to permanently off the ONE character with growth just so he could have the woofters and the cheating wife.
I hope they at least put some more Rhys on the show and make him into something other than a fat bastard. That guy ( ... )

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 22:11:54 UTC
i'm sorry they killed off your favorite character, but there was probably a reason for it. i don't know what it is or was, but they think these things through, you know? it might have been that burn gorman wanted to move onto other things, in which case they had no other choice.

do not like rhys. sure, props to him for sticking with with gwen in all her horrible person-ness, but he's just kind of skeezy. i do ship him and ianto though. it makes so much sense in my brain.

I AM PROUD OF YOU. I DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT OKAY.

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ginnie_jazz February 9 2009, 22:22:08 UTC
Yeah, I know, but still. There's not a whole lot of logic behind it, and there were so many unanswered questions that I can't get over how they would just...off him like that. It's not even that he's my favorite character (even though he is), but the fact that there was so much they left unsaid about him ( ... )

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whatnowpao February 9 2009, 22:29:47 UTC
their whole dynamic frustrates me.
actually, that's what happened. jb was like "i... would like to tap that. can has?" and they were like "kay."

WHO THE CHRIST IS THAT?

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ginnie_jazz February 10 2009, 00:09:57 UTC
It makes me angry because it's just like they could do a LOT with that. They could show that they're tender together, or they could show that they're really only in it for the sex, or they could show YanYans getting way too attached and then sulking when Jack goes off to flirt with Gwen/the rest of the world so you think Jack's just a bitch, and then something happens to Ianto and Jack does something EPIC and HEROIC to save him giving up a portion of his immortality or something, and then John comes in and kills him the rest of the way, there's a couple of episodes of Ianto and Gwen sitting around crying and looking at photo albums and sighing wistfully and saying "I wish he were here, why oh why isn't he here, o angst" and John being a bastard and trying to sleep with Ianto and he finally succeeds by forcing him and then BY SOME MIRACLE THAT ONLY HAPPENS IN THINGS THAT STEPHANIE MEYER AND DAVIES WRITE, Jack comes back, kicks John's ass, and makes out with Ianto with a 'clear conscious ( ... )

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whatnowpao February 10 2009, 00:14:44 UTC
i think that they can't really center a show around you know, the gaysecks, but are kind of letting it speak for itself. i mean, they certainly haven't vaguely hinted at it. but then the entire fandom has so much more to go on, and so many more interpretations of what's going on with them.

so i tasered them into it? or my life, so hard?

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ginnie_jazz February 10 2009, 00:19:11 UTC
That entire show is based on the sex, are you kidding me. It's like "here, have a bit of nonsensical sci-fi jargon, a few throwaway references to Doctor Who, and the rest of the show I will be tarting about with the nancy boy while secretly pining for Gwen."
I just want answers. I really don't want to see Jack and Ianto settling down and getting married and Jack resigning himself to monogamy because he 'can't have Gwen oh baw cry moar', because that's definitely not in character of Jack. Ianto, yes. Jack, no. But a lot of fics don't pick up on that and I really want people to see that this man is, above all, a giant ass. Which they can't because it's, oh ho ho *fluttering eyelashes* John Barrowman and therefore he can't do wrong.
Also am I the only one who found Burn Gorman more attractive than JB or GDL?

MY LIFE. SO HARD.

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whatnowpao February 10 2009, 00:30:08 UTC
no. i mean, mainly it is just gratuitous fanservice, but not all of it is based on sex. that is a point to it, but so is the nonsensical sci-fi jargon. there may be no morals to it and no greater meaning, but it is not all about sex. i'm not saying that people don't watch the show just for the sex, because they certainly don't watch it for the plot, but i don't think that's what the creators intended.
and i just don't think you've been reading the right fics. i have read some of those, but they've always been what i wanted to read right then. i have definitely found some fics where jack is well characterized.
but people read and write the kind of fics they want to, or they need. and i think that the show provides just enough sex for people to have concrete evidence that things are going on, but little enough that they can create whole backstories and episodes of things that are going on.

i did not find burn gorman all that attractive. john barrowman neither, he's just too... john barrowman. gdl i do like, though.

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ginnie_jazz February 10 2009, 00:38:27 UTC
There are better fandoms to choose from if you want happy squishy romance that will throw the characters you're writing out of character.

GDL...his forehead and nose combination bothers me. Like, a lot. The only thing attractive about him is his accent. And I think that "Barrowman" should be officially used as an adjective, meaning excessively over-the-top and flamboyant. The actions of the man at the bar were so Barrowman so as to be far more laughable than attractive.

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