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gera

Apocalypse? Now?

Jul 20, 2009 08:44

Это очередная часть цикла об историческом Исусе. См., также, здесь.

Как мы видели, Исус предсказывал, что апокалиптические события произойдут в его поколении, при жизни его слушателей. Несколько десятилетий можно спокойно (или не очень) пребывать в уверенности, что это произойдёт, но на каком-то этапе непременно возникают проблемы. И у ( Read more... )

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mratner July 21 2009, 03:29:03 UTC

Gera,

you might be interested in reading this book:

http://www.amazon.com/Jesus-Mysteries-Was-Original-Pagan/dp/0609807986/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1248146698&sr=8-1

("Jesus Mysteries - Was Original Jesus a Pagan God" by T. Freke and P. Gandy)

Also, have you ever read anything by Elaine Pagels?

gera July 21 2009, 03:49:53 UTC

No, I haven't and after reading the comments I don't think I will.
This comment agrees with everything I know. While the picture I am getting from the positive comments only further discredits the book in my eyes.

mratner July 21 2009, 12:30:08 UTC

OK, that's fair enough. I don't agree with everything in that comment but I actually agree with his main point that the authors seem to advance their thesis by only citing supporting evidence and rejecting all evidence to the contrary.
However, to me the book was interesting precisely because of that supporting evidence, which otherwise is relatively hard to come by, especially collected in one place and well-organized.

You didn't answer my question about Elaine Pagels...

gera July 21 2009, 13:31:10 UTC

Well, you may like this book by Lena Einhorn. It explores several non-mainstream theories and they are an interesting read, and here also some of the evidence is hard to come by otherwise.
Some of those theories are quite out there but none of them to the degree of the "pagan origin" claim. Besides, it gives a pretty good idea of the basis of knowledge about historical Jesus.

You didn't answer my question about Elaine Pagels

I haven't read any of her books. Her idea of Gnostic Paul seems to be clearly outside the mainstream, but again, can't be compared with the paganism claim.

off erez July 22 2009, 02:09:30 UTC

возможно, тебе будет интересно: http://www.jewishvoiceandopinion.com/a/JVO20090205.html