To all of those on my flist who have seen The Movie...

[gehayi]

Glad you liked it.

However, I already know that the

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[marauderthesn]

Yeah, the lack of MWPP-ness was irritating. For the record, though, Sirius isn't really telling Remus not to transform.

Bald Silver Jackal...*snort with laughter*...yeah, it was pretty weird-looking.

[gehayi]

Oh? I thought that in that scene Sirius was babbling to Remus about having a good heart and that the wolf wasn't really Remus...things like that.

Bald Silver Jackal...*snort with laughter*...yeah, it was pretty weird-looking.

Yeah. I can really picture a DADA teacher testing a class on the five points on which wolves differ from werewolves if werewolves looked like THAT thing.

[thistlerose]

No, it's more... (Paraphrasing): "This is who you are, Remus! Your heart is here!" (And they're chest to chest.) I got the impression he was trying to calm Remus, or stall him somehow.

And Snape is still unconscious during the Shack scene.

But the werewolf is just grotesque and icky. I wouldn't mind the departure from canon so much if it didn't look so stupid.

Oh yeah... I was MAAAAD

[cloudofcalm]

I was annoyed, big time. Lupin talks about the map to Harry, having not seen it,or given any indication as to how he knows it's a map, and there is No explanation as to the names of the Marauders, nor to why Harry's Patronus is a stag

It's not so bad as all that

[yduras]

I was annoyed, big time. Lupin talks about the map to Harry, having not seen it,or given any indication as to how he knows it's a map, and there is No explanation as to the names of the Marauders, nor to why Harry's Patronus is a stag.

I watched this movie sitting next to a man who has not read the books, only seen the first two movies. As soon as Snape is out of earshot, Lupin refers to the parchment as a map and my friend said "aha! He has seen it before. He's probably Moony." (he caught that Lupin was a werewolf from the boggart scene). Later, when the patronus took stag form, he said "aha! Prongs!"

So, for a reasonably bright person paying attention, it was possible to pick up most of the subplot from subtext.

[shiplizard]

That's really, really a pity.

Yes, the MWPP plot was important and missing. Some important details were left out, and their absence caused holes.

BUT. The movie in and of itself was gorgeous, tight, well put together, and I thought it kicked the first two's arses. With steel-toed boots.

I'll respect your choice, but it disappoints me.

[gehayi]

It wouldn't be hard for any movie to kick the first two's asses. With ballet slippers, never mind steel-toed boots. I saw the first two and quite literally remember nothing about them. I figure anything that forgettable could be arse-kicked quite easily.

[ihlanya]

I agree. I loved the first two movies, and the third outdid them totally.

I think people forget that movies based on books are NOT the books themselves. There's a time limit. Stuff has to be left out. And if part of what is left out is Oliver Wood's last Quidditch match, how important is that really?

I, too, respect gehayi's choice. And I, too, think it's a pity.

[gehayi]

I don't care about the Quidditch matches. Quidditch is the most boring part of the books.

I do, however, think that leaving out MWPP and omitting all mention of the Secret Keeper was wrong--wrong in a storytelling sense. These are pivotal points. They affect the plot and they affect characterization. Skipping over them because "everybody knows that anyway" is exactly what Suethors do at FFnet. If a point in the story is key, if it develops the plot, affects present and future behaviour, and will have repercussions that last for several stories to come, it SHOULD be mentioned. Cuaron and Kloves are professionals. They should have known better.

Additonal-

[cloudofcalm]

Draco and origami, yes, very strange. But the origami itself had the cinema crack up. He'd drawn a picture of Harry grinning and looking smug, then mouting his broom, taking off and falling off, looking sad. It was animated, like a photo - despite that being a process for wizard photography - but yeah.. it was so funny. People were giggling like crazy.

[ariastar]

The dropping of the MWPP plot was, probably, the most annoying thing. Considering that, with a few extra minutes, they could have had it in there nicely.

There is a mention of the Wolfsbane Potion, actually, but it goes into the WTF category too -- just before Remus transforms, Sirius, out of the blue, says something along the lines of "Remus, have you taken your potion tonight?" Considering the potion was developed, I believe, while Sirius was in Azkaban, he would know nothing of it; further, than line was totally unnecessary considering that the potion had not been previously mentioned.

I don't know if you had this feeling with Return of the King, this feeling of "I'm watching most of this movie, but there's much more" -- I really got that feeling from PoA. As though there's about half an hour's worth of extra material that the director didn't consider worth making the final cut, for some inexplicable reason

[thistlerose]

I actually like the Draco-Origami bit. I liked the way it was filmed. The paper bird, and Draco sort of breathing it at Harry were rather graceful and mystical...and then it turns out to be this crude, funny, stupid thing. Not unlike Draco himself...

The transformation was all right, I thought. I mean, it looked frickin' painful. I had to cover my eyes after Remus' back hunched -- ack. But the werewolf looked totally stupid. Not scary at all. An actual wolf -- albeit a big one, and maybe with gleaming eyes or something -- would have been scarier because it would have looked less awkward and comical. Oh, well.

I agree with you about the rest. :)