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Jun 21, 2010 23:45

Day 21 -- Favorite ship.Here's the thing--I suck at shipping romantic pairs. I really do, even if the pairing is canonical. So rather than talk about favorite romances--and there are so few that I care about that I can't truly be said to HAVE any favorites--I'm going to talk about favorite non-romantic relationships. Because those interest me more ( Read more... )

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reddwarfer June 22 2010, 03:56:00 UTC

I had almost had an stroke trying to figure out which to pick and so I totally cheated and named Star Bug as my favourite ship (a literal space ship).

I love the Tams. And the girls at Criminal Minds. So disappointed that JJ is leaving.

gehayi June 22 2010, 04:11:30 UTC

Well...see ctrl_issue's post below. It looks as if the fans are being fairly outspoken on the subject.

I'm amazed that when trying to pick your favorite ship, you didn't go with Red Dwarf! That would seem to be the obvious choice!

reddwarfer June 22 2010, 04:16:23 UTC

Well, like I said on my journal:

It was the home away from home for the crew of the Red Dwarf. It had pipes that skweelukeled when they should have nureeked. It was beautiful and green and crashed more times than a ZX81.

And that's good, hopefully.

ctrl_issue June 22 2010, 03:59:45 UTC

With regards to the Criminal Minds bit, actually... CBS might be "rethinking" that because of fan outcry. Fan outcry has been... there. And vehement. And flooding all voice mail, email inboxes, and other kinds of fun, modern fan-warfare type ways. It's actually pretty epic. From what I've been told (which is kind of a friend of a friend of a friend who works at CBS), the fan outcry has been all the gossip at the watercoolers, so... we'll see.

I'm hopeful because I ADORE JJ, Prentiss, and Garcia. I love that it shows that a woman can work and have a family and a normal life (JJ), can flirt with a friend and still be in a good relationship (Garcia), and can be single and functional (Prentiss). It shows that a woman can be strong and still a woman (all of them), and I love, love, love that it shows the women talking about things other than men ( ... )

gehayi June 22 2010, 04:09:28 UTC

No, you need to keep gushing about them as much as possible because they are AWESOME and there is not enough awesome on TV so it must be praised with great praise.

And I adore the three of them and I hope hope hope that CBS will do the sane thing and renew Cook's contract and NOT cut back on Brewster's either.

Also, I need an icon with the three of them. Just because.

ctrl_issue June 23 2010, 15:17:03 UTC

Here's more news. They're still not keeping AJ, but they are in talks to keep Paget. This makes me unbearably sad.

gehayi June 23 2010, 19:27:03 UTC

That makes me sad, too. CBS, why do you have to remove the awesome from your own show? WHY?

lareinenoire June 22 2010, 04:10:55 UTC

One of the things I really like about Matt Smith's Doctor is that he is so clearly alien and therefore more or less immune to fancying anybody. Yes, we do have that weird moment with Amy at the end of Flesh and Stone, but I just don't get a shippy vibe from them at all. Which is great because I completely agree with you that the Doctor is not meant to be a romantic lead. He just isn't. And trying to make him into one feels incredibly wrong.

(It was something I also appreciated about Donna; that she was patently uninterested in Ten. I adore Martha but I wish they'd given her more to do than pine hopelessly after him because, dammit, she is better than that. She did save the world by telling stories, after all.)

I ship Doctor/Tardis. :)

gehayi June 22 2010, 04:35:00 UTC

Doctor/TARDIS is the only canonical OTP in the series. This is the relationship that has lasted the Doctor for hundreds upon hundreds of years; he's even telepathically linked to her!

(It was something I also appreciated about Donna; that she was patently uninterested in Ten. I adore Martha but I wish they'd given her more to do than pine hopelessly after him because, dammit, she is better than that. She did save the world by telling stories, after all.)She really is. She's a completely incredible character and she just never struck me as the type of woman who would "let concealment, like a worm i' the bud, feed on her damask cheek." She's not a piner, she's a doer ( ... )

lareinenoire June 22 2010, 14:37:37 UTC

She really is. She's a completely incredible character and she just never struck me as the type of woman who would "let concealment, like a worm i' the bud, feed on her damask cheek." She's not a piner, she's a doer.

Yes to all of that. I'm rewatching the first four series of New Who with my fiancé, who is discovering it for the first time. He's a bit wary of Donna because all he's seen is 'The Runaway Bride' (and, to be honest, I was a bit too back when I first found out she'd be the next Companion), but we all know how awesome she becomes. :)

Lord. Because the Doctor would still think like a Time Lord and have the memories of one, despite having one heart and no TARDIS. And eventually, I think he'd take off, despite loving Rose. He wouldn't be able to tolerate pretending to be someone he wasn't.

I think you're exactly right there. And I think that's exactly the sort of thing Ten just wouldn't get because, much as I love Ten, he's completely rubbish at seeing the world from anybody else's perspective. Even his own sort-of-clone!

Curtains on the Lip of Vesuvius, Part 1 gehayi June 23 2010, 19:40:49 UTC

I started to write a story about the sort-of-clone once. I never finished it, but here's the bit I did write ( ... )

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bookblather June 22 2010, 04:38:24 UTC

Regarding male-female friendships that don't turn romantic, you might give The Middleman a look. Wendy and the Middleman never have the slightest bit of chemistry (to my eyes), and they both have other romantic partners, yet theirs is the central relationship of the show, and they're clearly extremely important to each other. It's a lovely friendship, in a show that didn't hit a false note in the whole run (which was only one season, but still).

Also, Star Trek seems to do pretty well with nonromantic male-female relationships. Right now I'm watching DS9, so that's about the only one I can think of, but so far Sisko and Jadzia, Jadiza and Quark, and Kira and Sisko don't appear to be going anywhere romantic, and I doubt they ever will.

Incidentally, I'd argue that Amy and Eleven do not have a romantic relationship, and never did. Her kissing him at the end of that one episode (can't remember which) was more of a "ye gods I want to get laid and you're around" moment to me, and Eleven strikes me as very much aromantic and asexual. He's ( ... )

gehayi June 22 2010, 04:50:02 UTC

Her kissing him at the end of that one episode (can't remember which) was more of a "ye gods I want to get laid and you're around" moment to me

You might be right. My immediate reaction was more along the lines of "Oh no, not AGAIN, I'm so sick of this same old storyline."

He's perfectly happy to be friends with everyone he meets, but sex is Out Of The Question.

I'm relieved that he's being played that way, but I'm still afraid that Amy's going to convince him that sex or true love might be a good idea. Or rather, that the writers will decide that.

I've never seen DS9 or The Middleman. I have actually looked for DS9 in my library--that and Babylon 5. No copies of either that I can see. Maybe I can find some online and watch bits without downloading (I am unnaturally cautious about evil malware these days).

bookblather June 22 2010, 04:54:35 UTC

Amy seems to have a very open approach to sex, and she and Eleven have been pretty non-romantic around each other, so I have hopes. It'll be very, very sad if they do take it in a romantic direction, because it's so damned good to see a character who's asexual for a change, and I don't want to lose that-- there are so few of them as it is.

I kind of love DS9. And The Middleman is awesome; lighthearted pseudo-superhero-comic TV with a brilliant relationship between the two main characters and a really stellar cast. Add the goofiest plotlines you have ever heard of (Peruvian imported fish turning people into trout zombies is one of the more straightforward ones) and some amazing dialogue and you have a perfect receipe for too good to last. Curses.

lls_mutant June 22 2010, 11:47:38 UTC

I would love to see crossover fic where Giles and Bob meet. And given their universes, that wouldn't be that hard ( ... )

gehayi June 22 2010, 14:27:04 UTC

I've never seen BSG--old version or new one. I'm not sure why. I just never saw it.

And I probably avoided Sports Night because of the title, on the grounds that anything about a night for sports is something I wouldn't be interested in. (This is why titles MATTER.)

I haven't heard anything about Fringe. I mean, anything. At all. Not even whether it's any good or not.

Is Sorkin an actor or director or what?

lls_mutant June 22 2010, 17:04:32 UTC

The old version of BSG is cheesy and done in the late 70s, and what I've seen reasonable for its time but rather full of gender issues. The new one (obviously) I adore, but it is not without its issues, especially in the later seasons ( ... )

gehayi June 23 2010, 19:47:31 UTC

I would love to see crossover fic where Giles and Bob meet. And given their universes, that wouldn't be that hard.

You know, now I can't stop thinking about that. Especially since Harry's referred to the Buffy TV show both in the books and (I think) on TV. So Harry would know who Buffy was. And given the portals and Hellmouths in BtVS...yeah, this could be more than possible. (Also, you KNOW there has to be a Hellmouth, or its equivalent, in Harry's Chicago. I mean, it stands to reason.)