HOI-POI 001 ✩ Video/Action

Apr 17, 2011 22:52

[Bulma sighs as she walks towards the residential area where she has been told that her room is, her steps are heavy and tired. She's exhausted, emotionally rather than physically and her eyes are red from crying. They haven't swollen up yet but it won't take long, now that the last stamp was put and she got the stupid towel, the guide and ( Read more... )

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[Text] chocogun April 17 2011, 23:45:56 UTC
You can't calculate it because there is no speed per say.

To move, S.S.Thor uses something called "Improbability Drive" [aaand he doesn't feel like typing out what that is, so he links her to this (first minute)]

There are no coordinates, everything is at random and its the driv4e that "chooses" were we will be ending up next.

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[Text] chocogun April 18 2011, 18:59:17 UTC
There are two types of wormholes. I know this due to the Refugees List, which Vogons update - they are very methodical creatures and while bureaucratic, they update the list quite often and efficiently ( ... )

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 13:53:27 UTC
So they can even affect your memory. That's pretty annoying in many levels. At least, that means that the "permanent wormholes" aren't something like a black hole and that once people get in them there's no hope of them ever returning or even being alive somewhere else. I was afraid it could be something like that.

The Refugees List is open to public checking, right? Can I access to it freely with the Guide or do I need to do something or go somewhere specifically?

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 15:04:57 UTC
Yes. It greatly depends on the type or what section of the timeline they were picked from.

The sown side of the permanent womrholes is that people will return to a world that will explode; since we don't know when it happens, there is always the possibility they will meet the explosion while still alive.

You can access it from the guide. [insert instructions here~]

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 15:17:20 UTC
Right, I hadn't thought of that side of it. If only we knew how the planets are destroyed, if it's by natural means then there's nothing we can do about it but if it's the work of someone or something else... I wonder if people being returned there and being lucky enough to keep their memories of the Thor, could avoid having their planet destroyed.

Have there been cases of people who were here, got sucked into a permanent wormhole, and months later returned... From a different timeline as they were first? Like from a year before their first time here or something.

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 15:37:26 UTC
There is a world destruction list, which you can also access with your guide. [ links her to this] I must tell you not everything makes sense.

Yes. But they don't remember ever being on Thor.

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 15:45:39 UTC
[Just a couple of entries and she can already tell that it doesn't make sense.]

I can see that not everything makes sense, most of it doesn't. And I see the Earth listed several times, that would sustain the other universes and dimensions idea, right?

I supposed they wouldn't, as technically for them their first visit hadn't happened yet. I was just wondering if that could be taken as sign that there may be no "later timeline point" for them to be sucked from by the wormholes. Though it would take a good while to study that until there's enough data to consider that theory.

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 16:02:31 UTC
Yes. It's a big universe; finding planets that are very similar to each other doesn't seem that weird for those who travel it. The captains also provided footage of various worlds destructions, but you need to request those from Vogons - expect a lot of forms to be filled.

Imagine time as an infinite line, constituted by infinite dots or points. And a person can be picked from any of those infinite points. We never know when the last point is - supposedly we assume it's when the world is destroyed, but since we cannot figure out when that happened, it's easier to assume there will always be the chance people from a "later timeline point" to end up on Thor.

That's why most refugees, when find someone they know, ask what was the last thing they remembered. You should do the same. [STALKING ALL YOUR CONVERSATIONS INCLUDING THE ONE WITH VEGETA? Why, I'd never]

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 16:21:39 UTC
That's right, it's another possibility. Though I find curious that even being similar in form, weather conditions and type of habitants so many planets would have the same name of "Earth". I would have expected at least other variations on it.

Yes, that's why I said it would be hard and would take a long while of studying it to be able to at least consider the theory. I don't think time is really linear though, but it's not as if I have proof of it, it's mostly a feeling. I would have probably gotten some proof in another year back home.

[Because if time was linear and that boy from the future had indeed changed time... Then his presence with them should have been erased because why would have he traveled back in time to begin with? Of course the wave change could have missed him until he "returned" to his time but still it would be difficult to see. They had said he would return though, hadn't they? So if he returned indeed that meant that his time, their future, was unchanged, which was impossible with all the changes already made ( ... )

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 16:32:21 UTC
There are variations. The things, however, what I've come to notice, most worlds destroyed are human worlds. Or if you want to see it from another angle, most refugees saved, are human. I'm not saying that humans are a target prone to be saved or destroyed, I'm simply pointing statistics out.

It's not linear either. There are "parallel universes", that diverge from the "main line", explained by multiverses theory or many-worlds interpretation of quantum physics. In this place, assuming that exists isn't as far off, I assure you.

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 16:44:49 UTC
Mostly humans, well that's partially a bit comforting... And quite strange too, back home I'm aware of a lot of planets with non-human races being destroyed, though I only know a few cases "personally".

[But Raditz had said it, that they traveled around the space conquering and destroying planets, and that wasn't the only time. She would have expected there to be less human refugees in here than what it seems like.]

Yes, I was leaning more towards that theory, it's possibly the only one capable of explaining the possibility of time-traveling after all. At least for time-traveling to the past, but seeing how the future and past are connected at every moment it's not as if it would be possible to time-travel only to the future.

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 16:54:02 UTC
That is, if our planets were really destroyed and if Thor has nothing to do with it for certainty. Either way, those are just paranoid theories, and the list is long.

It depends; there is also the theory, if you travel to the the past, all your actions were meant to happen that way, either you try to change it or not. "Pre-destined".

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 17:14:52 UTC
Well, I'm not optimistic enough to claim that my planet will never be destroyed. Same as I'm not crazy enough to claim that I'll live forever, it's part of life, things come to an eventual end. And I've seen a planet being destroyed before already, and the moon, so it's possible. But as I said it is on the when where I may not agree with.

But either way, paranoid or not, they are just theories. Without enough data to confirm any of them or determine if some are more probable than others, there's not much we can do. I suppose that the most we can do is keep an open mind and act with caution in general.

Ah, right, I've heard about it. I suppose it's possible too, again, I don't have enough data even back home to determine if it's that or anything else. That wormhole really sucked me in at a bad moment.

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 17:23:13 UTC
Everything will remain theories for long time; we have little to no actual information. Not even the captains seem to understand things fully, and some even gives us a different explanation - which means, they also very much rely on theory, and not actual facts.

Everyone says the same. No one wishes to be wormholed.

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[Text] curiousgenius April 21 2011, 17:28:46 UTC
I think that's the most annoying thing out of all of the annoying bits of this placer and situation. I am not against theories but I prefer facts, even in theories I prefer those that can be studied and proved right or wrong, not those that are unapproachable.

I wouldn't say I wished it, but, leaving aside the whole "my planet is destroyed, all my friends are dead" bit, it's an interesting situation. I wouldn't have minded that much to be wormholed in another year of my world as I would have gotten a few answers to questions that I have had for a long while now. But now I'm stuck with unsatisfied curiosity, I hate when that happens.

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[Text] chocogun April 21 2011, 17:42:38 UTC
Don't we all.

However, don't see it only as curiosity. This isn't a cruise. There are threats which we aren't even able to see yet, much less understand.

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