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Minnesota A.G. Admits Games are Speech ...Vile, Disgusting Speech

Jul 22, 2006 11:04

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mike hatch, esa, ema, minnesota, fine the buyer, lawsuits, legislation

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beardoggx July 22 2006, 16:43:19 UTC

This man just pretty much defeated his own case.

Okay, I figured out the "slaughter of innocent animals" part of what he was saying... gamepolitics July 22 2006, 16:47:04 UTC

...it refers to hunting season in Minnesota.

Re: Okay, I figured out the "slaughter of innocent animals" part of what he was saying... beardoggx July 22 2006, 16:57:46 UTC

And hunting games, like Cabela's Dangerous Hunts, etc.

Re: Okay, I figured out the "slaughter of innocent animals" part of what he was saying... gamepolitics July 22 2006, 17:11:10 UTC

well, I'm j/k about hunting season, but there's no way you could consider the hunting games any nastier than actual hunting, which they simulate.

Re: Okay, I figured out the "slaughter of innocent animals" part of what he was saying... beardoggx July 22 2006, 17:15:34 UTC

Exactly. It still doesn't change the fact that he defeated his own argument.

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Let us have a look at that eternallegenduk July 22 2006, 16:53:28 UTC

"Repulsive video games depicting the bloody slaughter of babies and animals, urination and defecation, rape, decapitation, dismemberment and disembowlment ( ... )

Re: Let us have a look at that ianc14 July 22 2006, 17:23:54 UTC

Bloody slaughter of babies:
The closest I can think of here would be Doom 3, which had warped cherubim monsters that made you feel genuinely uneasy about killing. At a push, Silent Hill has had some almost-children enemies.
Prey also has ghostly children you kill. But that is a bit of push, since they are already dead....

Re: Let us have a look at that terminator44 July 22 2006, 18:56:06 UTC

I believe Bioshock will allow you to kill children (who are gatherers of a substance called "Adam"). I don't believe it will be a required part of gameplay though, and it won't be an easy thing to do, since they'll be guarded by mech suits.

Re: Let us have a look at that gamepolitics July 22 2006, 19:10:33 UTC

well in that case, if you play WoW, the Horde could - and does - raid the Alliance city of Stormwind. There are some NPC kids in the city. I guess they could be killed out of sheer bloody-mindedness, but it's not part of the game by any stretch of the imagination.

Also, in WoW you are penalized for killing civilian NPC's...

Hatch makes it sound like there are games where the object is to kill kids.

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ianc14 July 22 2006, 16:57:58 UTC

Holy...

Wow.

depicting the bloody slaughter of babies and animals, urination and defecation, rape,
I dont think i even heard f any games that feature stuff like that.

I feel more annoyed by his comments than some of a certain lawyers rants. I mean saying they are a wirthless form of speech is just.... Well disgusting. Just because you dont like some of the things that are in M rated games doenst make them a lesser form of speech.

Is a violent film a lesser form of speech beause of its violence? No. Same should apply to games.

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jythie July 22 2006, 22:06:02 UTC

link?
I am curious to see this tread.

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jythie July 23 2006, 04:03:12 UTC

wow. even toned down, that post was a pretty nasty piece of work.
To put it bluntly and ironicly, I am actually kinda disgusted by this person.

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