Conflicting political beliefs?

Dec 07, 2009 12:23

~.: At the risk of starting a flame war/argument/what have you on LJ, I'm going to ask how someone can be pro-choice and anti-death-penalty. Please, someone, explain to me how this makes sense. :/

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windup_bird December 7 2009, 17:28:05 UTC
Can't help you out there :/ I'm pro-responsibility (pro-choice with some limitations) and pro-death-penalty so I have no idea.

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ohkaye December 7 2009, 17:51:13 UTC
Because they're not the same thing. At all.

I'm pro-choice and, frankly, my opinion about the death penalty changes every single time it's brought up. It's difficult to consider because there's such a margin of human error in court cases. Basically, I think that if it's obvious someone committed a heinous crime, there's no point in them sucking up my tax money in prison, but it takes a lot to prove that.

Being pro-choice doesn't mean you think KILL ALL THE BABIES BABIES SHOULD DIE. It's not a murder in that sense of the word at all. It shouldn't be used as birth control, but if a mother is in danger or two young or wouldn't be able to care for the baby, I honestly believe it's better for that child to be terminated. I've seen and heard too much about the adoption system in this country to have any faith in it at all ( ... )

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zekitty December 7 2009, 17:57:26 UTC
"KILL ALL THE BABIES BABIES SHOULD DIE." I just lol'ed. xD

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fushigi_na_chou December 8 2009, 15:37:45 UTC
I cut this comment down alot because I realized I was writing an essay. =o ( ... )

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ohkaye December 8 2009, 15:46:06 UTC
No offense, but "pro-responsibility" doesn't really mean anything to me.

I mean, being "pro-responsibility" as you just described it means that women who were raped, or women who did want to have a baby and discovered during their pregnancy that the child has serious mental or physical disability that they can't care for, for whatever reason, or that there is some serious threat to the mother's life are being irresponsible in some ways. There are situations that can't be helped. I also have noticed there's this rampant and incorrect assumption that the majority of women who seek abortions are using it as some kind of birth control, and that's just not the case. It's not. I'd rather a bundle of cells be flushed out of someone's system than have a child brought up in an environment where it isn't wanted or won't be properly cared for. And honestly, there are women who do everything in their power to not have a child - they're on the pill, they make their boyfriend use a condom, they use spermicidal jelly - and shit happens ( ... )

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kendobunny December 7 2009, 17:53:40 UTC
Simple- they don't think an in-utero baby is a human.

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zekitty December 7 2009, 17:55:26 UTC
Of course they're not human! They're clearly small orange oompa loompas that magically found their way into the womb. -.-;

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zekitty December 7 2009, 17:54:13 UTC
Simple: someone can support a woman's right to choose and also disagree with the execution of criminals. It's far more specific than simply killing.

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ohkaye December 7 2009, 18:00:08 UTC
This. There are a lot of subtleties and nuances that aren't being acknowledged by attempting to lump them together.

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wishpaper December 7 2009, 20:49:16 UTC
Because pro-choice is not pro-abortion. It's not pro-murder.

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