I just have to say

[aidan83]

 
I am so tired of all of this bullshit hype about Thomas Beattie and how he is messing everything up for trans men.  For the record, he is not the first trans man to do so.  I don't know if he brought this media circus on himself or not, but I do know that he is not the first trans man to get pregnant.  In any case, now all kinds of people are all

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Re: kind of ironic

[aidan83]

okay, touche. I am, of course, part of the problem and I do spend my time and energy in ways that are not necessarily most effective. However,I also chose to put my time, money, and energy into getting my master's so I can be a therapist who doesn't make anyone jump through hoops or play the game to get access to hormones. I also go out into the community and educate and I also choose to be a visible trans man to further the agenda that I've decided is important. It's not fair for me to judge anyone else's agenda, and sometimes I do it anyway, which makes me a hypocrite. And I recognize that I have all kinds of privilege which influence my space in the world and the way I negotiate the world. But I'm not saying anyone else has to do things my way, or at least I'm recognizing that it's not fair when I do say that. I am saying that I'm tired of infighting and gender policing in this and other cases

Re: kind of ironic

[ephraim_oakes]

yeah, i agree. there are plenty of identity politics articulated around medicalized conditions. that medical condition/identity strict division just doesn't hold up.

Re: kind of ironic

[jordan23]

However,I also chose to put my time, money, and energy into getting my master's so I can be a therapist who doesn't make anyone jump through hoops or play the game to get access to hormones.And what would you do or say if you were to be the major helper in say allowing confused people to start T and become a man only to havet them sue you for everything you own and worked for? How would you feel if one day you found out you actually ruined man ppl's lives bc you thought "I just wanted to help someone" but instead you did the opposite

Re: kind of ironic

[aidan83]

I'm not saying there should be access to hormones with no screening, but I don't know that the current system is the best we could do. And I think the problem comes from the fact that we've defined what you call female organs as such rather than recognizing that a man can have what we currently call female organs and still be a man. I think to say otherwise limits us more than anything else, and I am tired of my gender being policed more by people in these communities than it generally is in my outside life.

Re: kind of ironic

[aidan83]

yes, it would be nice to have language we all agree on. I think calling someone else's organs "female organs" is policing someone else's gender. I'm sure that I am guilty of doing so as well. I would like everyone to respect everyone else's opinion. Am I always able to do that? no. but am I willing to be called on that and to try to be better? yes. that's all I'm asking for from everyone else.

Re: kind of ironic

[aidan83]

to me it's similar to saying that if you say my hand is a foot I have to agree. I don't think you and I are going to agree on this. that's okay. let's just agree to disagree. I don't think we're going to get anywhere productive from here.