A point I've been trying to make for a long time

Feb 10, 2008 14:29

Mr. Obama, I honestly wasn't sure about you (even if I still preferred you over Billary or McCain), but you just won me over, sir.

"For one, they need to understand the critical role that the separation of church and state has played in preserving not only our democracy, but the robustness of our religious practice. Folks tend to forget that ( Read more... )

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tzisorey February 10 2008, 23:06:27 UTC
I gotta admit, I'm impressed.... but I don't think he's going to get in.

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natashasoftpaw February 13 2008, 06:39:00 UTC
I was doubtful at first, but it seems like each successive primary election brings Obama a more clear-cut and decisive victory over Clinton than the last. Today was the "Potomac Primaries" set (Virginia, Maryland, and DC), and Obama won all three elections by huge margins, as much as 3:1 in DC.

There are more primaries coming up, but I think Obama will get the Democratic nomination. McCain is shaping up to be the Republican nominee, but his support is really weak, and he doesn't have the support of the traditional Republican base (rural conservatives), so this could be a very interesting election if it comes down to McCain vs. Obama. The Democrats experienced what happens when the party's main supporters are apathetic about the party's candidate, and Obama has very enthusiastic support from the democrat base this time.

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loriana February 11 2008, 01:25:43 UTC
Thank you for posting this.

I think this underscores Obama's use of 'good reason'... something that typically is sorely lacking when it comes to the empassioned matter of religeon .

I admit, I'm very impressed by his views here.

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dakhun February 11 2008, 01:58:47 UTC
So he's not only opposed to gay marriage on religious grounds, but opposed to abortion as well, also on religious grounds?

And half of Democrats like that? :-P

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foxymoonheart February 11 2008, 02:23:26 UTC
No. It means he understands the purpose and importance of the separation of church and state, and supports such.

The abortion reference was an example of this, regarding a specific religion and/or denomination imposing its views upon the masses. In fact, Obama supports a women's right to choose.

While he does not support gay "marriage" (the specific use of that term), he does fully support equal rights for gays and gay partners, including civil unions the equivalent of marriage.

I'm not sure where you're getting your information, so here's a neutral website showing where Obama stands on various issues:

http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

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dakhun February 11 2008, 03:53:44 UTC
Well, right now, I'm getting my information from that quote you gave, and he says clearly enough "I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons". There's a lot of hoohaa on the net that claims one way or the other what Obama's stand on abortion is, but this quote you gave puts two things into focus that for me are critical. 1 - that regardless of whatever his party policy is, he opposes abortion personally, and 2 - that the reason he opposes abortion personally is because of his religious faith ( ... )

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foxymoonheart February 11 2008, 04:35:42 UTC
It's called an example. He's trying to make a point. Even if he really is opposed to abortion, he still does not believe his personal religious beliefs should limit what others can and cannot do. Please read the link I gave you which explains his stance on this and many other important issues. Thank you.

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defconn1 February 11 2008, 03:57:52 UTC
Anyone know a website that puts the candidates answers to issues side by side (for easy comparison)?

Thanks!

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awesome slrdarien February 11 2008, 22:46:44 UTC
sweet, that site is very helpful, thank you

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yep slrdarien February 11 2008, 20:59:59 UTC
Obama has good views and also good charisma. And we need a good foreign relations president after the last 8 years.
I think the man has allot of power and conviction when he talks. I am getting doubtful of Hillary even though I think she might do a good job, but as stated in this chain, shes made promises and not filled them before, so my trust in her is not without pause. So far my vote is for Obama. I am undecided so far a I am registered as a Democrat so I could if I wanted. But I usually stay out all that stuff and only Vote on the final go. I might this year.

As far as separating religion and state, I agree totally.
Any one that wants to force others to follow there religion can just leave this country right now and start there own somewhere else.

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