One in the endless list of things I don't understand

Mar 05, 2006 23:54

Okay. One of the time-tested plots of things is two people fighting over the affections of a third. That's all well and good, classic, completely understandable. Except. The thing I don't get about it. Okay. So the thing is. You lure this person away from whoever they're currently with, for whatever justification (they're a jerk, they don't ( Read more... )

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frustratedpilot March 5 2006, 21:16:14 UTC
My mother writes romance novels...and one of her favorites was the one in which the other woman totally fails to steal hero from heroine, even though hero thought heroine was marrying somebody else and so was unavailable. It was a more complex story than that...and Mom wound up liking the other woman character so much she made her the heroine of the next book. (Unfortunately she had to change the names, because the publisher didn't like the idea of sequels, but the character is basically the same as originally created.)

Love triangles are popular because they actually happen in real-life sometimes, people falling in love with somebody totally wrong for them, while being oblivious to a better potential mate right in front of them. But I have to agree that it's a tired idea.

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forsythferret March 5 2006, 21:49:06 UTC
Well, I'm not just talking about in stories, and I'm not just talking about love triangles. Stealing someone away from a relationship they're already in, while the staple of many a romantic comedy, just Doesn't Make Sense to me. Unless it's for a temporary relationship, because going into it, you KNOW they're not going to be able to be completely loyal. You proved that. Love triangles are another manifestation of the same kind of thing, but not as extreme.

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the_s_guy March 5 2006, 22:53:28 UTC
It's one of those situations where intellectual logic Does Not Apply. Hormones and psychology and wish-fulfilment and stubbornness and emotions are the drivers. And as you said, it's probably based on the "Can I get together with person X long enough to pass on my genes, hopefully multiple times, doubly-hopefully putting in enough effort along the way so that they don't run off with someone else?" factor ( ... )

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anonymous March 6 2006, 11:37:05 UTC
There are all sorts of reasons for being in an established relationship which are bad reasons and can be trumped by good reasons. Simple fact. Not every instance of someone leaving someone for someone else indicates that they're a fickle flighty person who is going someplace else now.

On the other hand there are also people who are inconstant in relationships. Badly so. Our culture has underlined that 'love' is vastly more important than 'duty', thus justifying twits who fall in and out of love in breaking hearts right and left as they play quick-change partners looking for someone they won't get bored with.

So, eh. It can mean nothing, or it can mean something.

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leticia March 6 2006, 11:38:59 UTC
Sorry. I didn't think it posted. >_

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leticia March 6 2006, 11:38:00 UTC
There are all sorts of reasons for being in an established relationship which are bad reasons and can be trumped by good reasons. Simple fact. Not every instance of someone leaving someone for someone else indicates that they're a fickle flighty person who is going someplace else now.

On the other hand there are also people who are inconstant in relationships. Badly so. Our culture has underlined that 'love' is vastly more important than 'duty', thus justifying twits who fall in and out of love in breaking hearts right and left as they play quick-change partners looking for someone they won't get bored with.

So, eh. It can mean nothing, or it can mean something.

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forsythferret March 7 2006, 16:29:10 UTC
I dunno. To my mind, there's a difference between leaving someone, and leaving someone for somebody else. No matter how good the reasons may be (or seem). And I realize there's not much practical difference between leaving somebody and hooking up with someone else a week later and just leaving directly to the other person, but it feels different, kinda. Maybe I'm just over-romanticizing relationships, as I tend to do.

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shaenon March 6 2006, 12:48:37 UTC
I'm sure it's popular simply because everyone, everywhere, has at some point loved someone who was unavailable (they're in a relationship, you're in a relationship, they're your eighth-grade French teacher, whatever), so the fantasy of stealing a love object away from a rival has universal appeal.

It does bother me when it gets to the point of actually standing someone up at the altar, like in Spider-Man 2. I mean, that's not just inconstant, it's stone-cold *mean*. Think of all the poor guests who have to stand around and make uncomfortable chit-chat. And then there's all those Nora Ephron movies where the characters have nice but imperfect significant others whom they dump unceremoniously as soon as the One True Love sails into view. So sad.

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