Rape, BDSM and true love

[fog_dancer]

 Oh dear...

Today is one of these slow days, where you just click on whatever link you see and especially if it is fanfiction, because hey rainbowcrack!, and then you realize that instead of getting flail and sparkles (or, in rare cases, really well written prose) you're getting something like this.

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[still_ciircee]

THIS. SO MUCH THIS.

Rape-fantasy is so much different than actual rape. Why can't fandom see the difference? It's just. If that's how they really feel about sex it makes me wonder. A lot.

Also: Is that the fic where Nino rapes Ohno and then the go on to be totally in love? The spy-Aiba off-shoot? Or is this some new horror? I hope its the old one.

[fog_dancer]

*blinks* A comment! Rapture is indeed upon us... :D

Fandom is really weird sometimes. I've barely ever seen negative feedback on a rape story, but dare to bring in a female and it's happy hour in the slaughterhouse.

The little excerpt was actually a paraphrase by me, because I didn't want to copy from a specific poster (there are too many anyway and to start a flamewar would be pointless). I think I know the two fics you're referring too and no, sadly, there are new ones. :(

I just don't get and was very frustrated when I wrote that entry. I mean...people don't have to write vanilla, hand-holding, sunset-watching, spooning under a blanket sex, but rape is not the opposite of vanilla sex. To rape is the opposite of to love.

[still_ciircee]

I liked your style so I followed you home.

negative feedback on a rape storyI KNOW. I think what happens is that a lot of people just leave in disgust and don't say anything because the author will just say 'well, he LOVES HIM' and not get the point. It's a waste of time. But then there are the morons who think it is hot and rejoice all over it. Then the author is encouraged and writes/posts more and people who like GOOD fic go 'ugh, leaving this pit of bad fic' and they do

[fog_dancer]

Oh, yeah, the cheerleaders. Where everything is hot and awesome and cute. Cute. Because what is rape if it isn't cute, right? *UGH*

Also, of course Arashi is gay, for realz, all of them, and they only ever have sex with each other. Preferably at once. With no condoms. Because how else would you get to write mpreg? And who doesn't love mpreg? (Me, that's who.)

Cullen!Arashi? I smell some puns for something sucking boyband members...

[r_tenou]

THANK YOU!! I'm so glad someone brought this up.

I see this a lot in the fics I beta (unfortunately) and thankfully some of the authors do realize what they're writing is wrong. It just takes a bit of explaining.

Double unfortunately, some of them carry forth with it anyway, even with me "shouting change this! It's sick and wrong and do you even know what you're saying??" frantically in the background. Part of me thinks they don't; the other part makes sure they slap a warning label on it to save future reader's eyes.

Gah.

[r_tenou]

misplaced quotation mark ftw. :P

[fog_dancer]

(A second commenter! Be still my heart!)

I've encountered the same reaction, when I did post criticism, even if worded very carefully. Some, I believe, don't expect to see anything but positive feedback and close up when someone offers the opposite. And some, sadly, really don't get it.

If you're one of the people responsible for the warnings: have my heartfelt thanks. It's really awful when you think you're reading an angst fic and suddenly *this* happens. So, whenever there is a warning, I just don't read it anymore.

Gah indeed.

[r_tenou]

A friend sent me the link to this page, proclaiming it's brilliance, and I heartily agree. ^_^

Not only do I ask for a warning to these kinds of stories, but I also ask that they stamp a big, fat OOC on them too. Because while we do take liberties in writing their personalities (and preferences, obviously), in what world would Sho force himself on Aiba? They never trust me when I say the answer is: none. :P

[kokkaii]

I think the common misconception for young girls/writers is that in any relationship a person 'owns' another person so completely that there is no other way to show that but by authority. And then that, of course, ends up in showing that ownership so painfully and abusively.

Maybe they're confusing a sense of belonging to possessiveness? I personally feel that it's a very naive thought - that belonging means controlling/being controlled by another person - and I am often very shocked at the implications of what a romantic relationship might mean to these girls.

Rape is rape is rape is rape. It's never a good thing and it's not a very good basis for love. It's painful and intrusive and no one can possibly want to stay in a relationship willingly if that happened.

I-I think I know which fic you're talking about >< I am absolutely stupefied at how the story is "developing" and how it's not even that incident (which sounds like something the seme does alot btw) that made the uke escape from the relationship

[fog_dancer]

(A third comment...*tearyeyes

[kokkaii]

I must confess, I found this journal through that ninda-gate fiasco (yes, I'm calling it that hahahah

[fog_dancer]

I have to say, the responses to this really make me happy. It's good to know that rapefic isn't generally liked or approved. It's good to know that not liking rape isn't some strange kink for an Arashi stan. Thank you for this