I never realized until just now that putting an NC-17 label on a story could be interpreted as me saying people under 18 shouldn't read it. No, really. I guess it comes from never having been subjected to those ratings in any other context and also from not having had anyone try to limit my reading when I was under 18. I always just thought of it as a piece of useful information: smut here. Or violence, but usually not in my stories.
*shrug* I can see why Americans use "NC-17" and other localised film classification labels for their stories. I can't figure out why anyone else would. Why not just say "smut here"? (Or "violence here".) It was years before I figured out what "NC-17" was supposed to mean, anyway: I first encountered it on a Garak/Bashir archive, which is why, I suppose, I associated it with starships.
On my website, I decided to do just a list of general warnings and put a link to the list at the start of each fandom. (I read slash when I was 16, and would have read it younger if I'd known it existed, so I'm not
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That makes sense. :) As for why one uses the classifications, I suppose it has to do with introduction and context - my first introduction to organized fiction-posting was alt.startrek.creative. As I said, I never really thought about it as something that had to do with age, only with content. :)
wow, thanks for the chan term background. i just saw a poll last night where more than 2/3 of the participants (roughly) defined chan as 12,13, 14 already fewer. it was in hp, so i do think that it has definitely taken the place of shota (which is a term rarely if ever used). [do you by any chance have any more info, like who coined it and what term it might have come/split off from?)
I don't remember who coined it, though some other more reliable TPM vet might. (Can't look for it, either, since it must have been before the master_apprentice list was shut down and started over, and I believe the archives were lost at that point.) What I do seem to remember is that it was based on a slight misunderstanding of the Japanese -chan diminutive, which as I understand it is used for children and pets and girlfriends and whatnot, but not so much something that any self-respecting 14-year-old boy wants applied to him. So actually, I think someone who is kinda familiar with Japanese but not with slash-fandom usage of chan would be quite likely to think that it is quite close to shota.
i can't believe i found it. i spent all day yesterday trying to collect metalinks (and boy did it get nostalgic there in 2002 metablog...not :-) [<-- i'm already going nuts and i didn't even try to go before lj!], so i had hundreds of lj links in yesterday's history...but alas, i found it in seconds: http://www.livejournal.com/poll/?id=326276&mode=enter
Thanks for the link! eenteresting. I think I would probably go with 13-15, myself... probably. Suddenly I'm not-so-nostalgic for the days when writing Blair Sandburg at 17 was risqué.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who misses the old ML. So convenient getting it straight to your mailbox. Oh well, I guess I'm getting old and grouchy. On an unrelated note, still on for friday?
Friday is absolutely a go unless I am left prostrate with heatstroke. *crosses fingers* Same time, across the street? If the weather is all right for eating lots of meat, anyway. Otherwise it might have to be ice cream for dinner. :)
The pictures don't do JC's outfit justice. He was the last one on the team to be announced, and he was the only one dressed totally different from the rest of the team, and he was adorable and goofy and he actually looked quite hot, especially when he jumped in the pool to cool off and took the thingy off his head and shook the water out of his curls and put the bandanna back on, careful to get it just right, only to do it all over again in a few minutes. And, well you get the idea.
Sounds priceless - wish I'd been there to see it! And I'm totally agreeing to "adorable" but the thing is, my grandmother wore her scarf just like that and I can't think "hot" about someone who reminds me of my grandmother. just, no. ;)
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*shrug* I can see why Americans use "NC-17" and other localised film classification labels for their stories. I can't figure out why anyone else would. Why not just say "smut here"? (Or "violence here".) It was years before I figured out what "NC-17" was supposed to mean, anyway: I first encountered it on a Garak/Bashir archive, which is why, I suppose, I associated it with starships.
On my website, I decided to do just a list of general warnings and put a link to the list at the start of each fandom. (I read slash when I was 16, and would have read it younger if I'd known it existed, so I'm not ( ... )
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That makes sense. :) As for why one uses the classifications, I suppose it has to do with introduction and context - my first introduction to organized fiction-posting was alt.startrek.creative. As I said, I never really thought about it as something that had to do with age, only with content. :)
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LOL about JC and your grandmother :-)
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Where did you see that poll? *interested*
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