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filkertom

There's A Reason I Created This Userpic

Sep 06, 2013 18:12

Ahhh, DC Comics. Always with the maturity and good clean fun.

I don't think it's any secret that I've had it up to HERE with what the writers and editors at Marvel and especially DC Comics consider to be cutting-edge material, mostly because their material tends to include lots of cutting edges. But this is just frickin' nuts ( Read more... )

wtf, comics

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palenoue September 6 2013, 23:07:16 UTC

But what can we, the fans, do about it? We've protested, signed petitions, stopped buying comics altogether, ranted mightily in comment sections, but it just keeps getting worse.

Hmmmmmm... maybe a video montage protest with a catchy tune? If it went viral that might get someone's attention.

gardnerhill September 7 2013, 00:35:24 UTC

Next up - the white 50something dickboys at DC have another meeting to scratch their collective cement dick-heads and ask each other Why Gurllz Arnt Buying Are Comix.

I adored Harley Quinn from the animated series - it was so cool to have a psycho-killer Bat-villain who just happened to be a woman, with her great costume, her hero-worship of "Mistah J" and who was not sexed up and dumbed down so as not to be a threat to the boy viewers.

Aaaand it seems DC Comics let the greasy Captain-Sweatpants wing of their creative team get their sweaty fingers on Harley, so they could sex her up AND fridge her at the same time. Which isn't fucking creepy at all.

laurel_potter September 7 2013, 04:03:41 UTC

I've stopped buying comics, mostly because I don't have the income anymore. But I'd rather dig out the old 60s, 70s and 80s comics anyway, than what's being produced today.

alverant September 7 2013, 21:35:26 UTC

Let's not forget the DC reboots. The Legion of Superheroes titles were the only DCs I collected for any length of time just to see them wiped from existence in yet another reboot. I think reboots can be useful if done right, but DC never did them right.

laurel_potter September 9 2013, 02:42:15 UTC

Ooo, a Legion fan! Yeah, I have them up to about two years ago, and then I just gave up.

bayushisan September 7 2013, 07:04:42 UTC

*SIGH ( ... )

alverant September 7 2013, 14:15:03 UTC

+1 heck, +2

bayushisan September 7 2013, 15:43:00 UTC

You know the really interesting this is that if you look back at the DCAU from Batman: the Animated Series all the way through Justice League Unlimited, including Batman Beyond and even Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, is that those series all got it. The characters were heroes, even Batman, though he was more of a loner, especially after the events described in Return of the Joker. Those shows were great and remain some of my favorite animated series ever ( ... )

alverant September 7 2013, 16:58:37 UTC

Agreed. I'm not so sure about the new Avengers show though. It seems a bit harder than EMH. I haven't seen the new Spider-man but his show is in the same universe as EMH (including a few cross-over episodes).

Marvel and DC have decades of mythology built up. That's its strength and its weakness. It's a strength because of the wealth of material. It's a weakness because it's hard to get the whole backstory without a big initial investment on the part of the reader and since comic book heroes don't age (much) the history in the comic book doesn't always hold up as real world time passes.

marrael September 7 2013, 08:14:52 UTC

Due to work, I've had incidental sabbatical from the Internet the last week or so. The last fiasco I was steeped in online before this DC thing was Miley Cyrus' VMA performance. Now this, and I can't help but feel it's all part of a wider culture, the culture that still doesn't GET IT, that mistakenly believes that being EDGY means hypersexualizing and objectifying women to whatever extreme they can get away with. Because you know, the opposite and cop-out would be staying "politically correct", a phrase which has been villainised like no other. One might as well go watch a rom-com if you want a film without controversy, action or half-dressed wimmen to gawk at and judge. And we all know those are wimmen's touchy-feely movies are of no worth, AMIRITE ( ... )

alverant September 7 2013, 14:27:12 UTC

I think you made some excellent points. Personally I don't mind the OTT special effects or stakes if it adds something to the story and it entertains me. That's all I want from a movie, entertainment, and if it makes me ponder some things about life that's a bonus. If it's not you're thing, that's OK.

The idea of PC is (as I understand it) is not to be unnecessarily offensive by using harmful labels. Now I think most of the push against PC are people who are just looking for a license to offend everyone else for their own amusement and shore up their fractured egos and other such reasons. Basically they're looking for an excuse to be a jerk.

I haven't been doing much new sci-fi lately pretty much for the reasons you described. I just haven't found one that appeals to me for a while and I haven't had the time to read any books in light of all the other things I do. It's made me doubt my position as a fan. So thanks for posting what you did. It's good to know I'm not alone.

gardnerhill September 7 2013, 16:13:20 UTC

"Political correctness" used to be an in-joke among lesbians about friends so hyper-aware of all the oppressed and marginalized groups that they pretty much couldn't walk, eat or breathe (How can I be a vegan and wear cotton? How many bees died pollinating the cotton field that made this blouse?).

The term's been co-opted by the right-wing and its attendant assholes - and now it's sneered by white straight Christian males who are upset that they can't tell racist and rape jokes without getting backtalk from the Untermenschen.