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CALIFORNIA'S PROP 8 STRUCK DOWN

Feb 07, 2012 14:32

Major victory for non-traditional marriage. There's a stay (pending appeals), so same-sex marriage does not immediately resume. The whole thing is almost certainly going to the SCOTUS.

Thoughts?

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hbruton February 7 2012, 22:19:15 UTC

I'm so tired of this stupid fight. It should be over and done with by now, instead we're still arguing and fighting about basic human rights. It does make me hopeful, though. I wish SCOGTUS would just legalize it over the whole country like they did here in Canada. I don't think it will happen but damn it would be nice.

alverant February 7 2012, 22:23:43 UTC

I'm not so sure it's going to SCOUTUS, or if it does it will get a ruling. They've been a bit skittish when it comes to contraversial decisions lately. I think there's a chance they will let the lower court ruling stand rather than get involved in something they will eventually lose.

rivkaesque February 7 2012, 22:52:49 UTC

Not hopeful. SCOTUS membership isn't exactly equal-rights friendly. The thing that really scares me is that a ruling by them could potentially lead to problems for those states that do NOT have their heads up their carefully-selected bible passages.

And I firmly believe that marriage should be a contractual thing. For Pete's sake, that's what it really is, right? "An agreement between two or more parties, especially one that is written and enforceable by law."* And it's already been firmly established just who can contract with whom i.e. any legal entity with any other legal entity, provided that said legal entity is not a minor (or non compos mentis). The laws should not differ this radically for this one type of contract.

*thefreedictionary.com

teddywolf February 8 2012, 03:54:19 UTC

"I hereby dub thee Corporation and Mrs. Microsoft. You may kiss the bride."

Since corporations are people, what sex are they? And why aren't they subject to minimum age for driving laws?

kengr February 7 2012, 23:04:51 UTC

No, the supporters of Prop 8 will almost certainly *try* to get the SCOTUS to take the case. The odds of them succeeding are low.

Also the odds are not the best for a ruling in their favor if they do get the SCOTUS to take the appeal.

gardnerhill February 8 2012, 02:03:24 UTC

Terrified, frankly - because it's still the guys who passed Citizens United. If it's good for anyone but a white straight Christian male, the usual Catholic patriarchs will shit on it and Clarence Thomas will do what they say.

As a Californian who'd like to dance at my nephew's wedding someday and embarrass the hell out of him and his husband as is my right?

This - THIS, more than anything - is why I despise and loathe Mormons. The whole cabal funnelled $22 million of lying hate-ads into my state to get Prop 8 passed in the first place, and now they throw every fucking roadblock in the way howling that Help Help They're Being Oppressed Because They're Not Being Allowed To Oppress! And they do it with that goddamn brain-dead-Christian SMILE on their clean-shaven faces.