Art Post: The Crying Game AKA "Jeanty Tears."

Aug 03, 2011 02:28

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2maggie2 August 3 2011, 10:41:10 UTC
I think she's tearing up, which is not full-on crying. She was tearing up in the what about me panel as well. Ditto the panel from her conversation with Xander when she was moping about sapping energy from the dead slayers. In general it's how Jeanty shows extra emotion.

ETA: In the first two panels, there is no emotion. But in those cases, it's the angle. Notice that there are no lines on that side of the nose, whereas there are in the tearing up panels.

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fenderlove August 3 2011, 13:56:46 UTC
I think that, personally, Jeanty allowed the innermost downstroke crosshatch line (because she's got the angry eyebrows going on) represent the outside of duct and the skin tone was allowed to fill in the shape. In the one other panel of Buffy tearing up where she's not full-on crying, he still separated it from the eye, and even though the tear had not yet spilled out of the eye, it was still blue. The duct was left white most likely because the colourist because a good portion of the time everyone's ducts and corners of the eyes are left white and not pink ( ... )

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2maggie2 August 3 2011, 14:06:42 UTC
See, the pictures you included above to show the typical case don't match the panel in question. It's not a missing line. The eye would be mis-shapen if that's not a tear welling up, and I don't have that reaction to any of the other examples you give... except the one from #33, which is right before a panel of Buffy full-on crying.

I've tended to read a lot of Jeanty's pictures of Buffy as somewhat moist-eyed, with the intent of conveying "heart-felt feeling of some sort." So that might also be part of the difference between us. Maybe you haven't read those panels that way either.

In any case, I like the way it looks to me. It's just a hint of the urgency behind the question (which wouldn't be asked in any case if there were no urgency). She's isolated and on the ropes and it'd be surprising to me if she didn't have some watery emotions in the mix there.

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fenderlove August 3 2011, 14:44:19 UTC
Maybe you haven't read those panels that way either.

Probably not. Moistness tends to imply certain comic conveniences of how to portray that, and unless I see those which Jeanty uses, I'm not going to assume something is moist. She just looks angry to me, and her words and expression leave me rather cold. However, I'm glad that other people have enjoyed her inclusion in the web comic and are getting something out of it. Ah, comics, there's a little something for everyone.

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fenderlove August 4 2011, 02:27:38 UTC
I think that it will probably be whatever people want it to be in the end, and I think that's all right. One of the drawbacks of the artform, I suppose, instead of an actor. I just wanted to provide an overall look into some other instances of Jeanty's style in regards to the crying thing.

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shipperx August 4 2011, 02:02:06 UTC
At best... it's ambiguous. So, I guess... whatever.

People will think whatever they thing and that's okay.

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fenderlove August 4 2011, 02:21:57 UTC
It is. The critic in me just would not leave my brain alone until I had at least provided some kind of comparison since it would be an oddity for Jeanty to portray crying in that manner. Not impossible certainly, just out of the norm for his art and for the colourist involved.

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ms_scarletibis August 5 2011, 04:54:00 UTC
Dude.

There's nothing in her facial expression suggesting she might be tearing up...when I first heard this, I was pretty much "Buh?"

And...Buffy tried to take Xander from Dawn or something? Missed out on a big chunk of the comics. Also, did you happen to save the Spike web comic? And this should probably be a PM...

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fenderlove August 5 2011, 08:21:18 UTC
I was kind of amazed that people thought she was crying, but there you go. Some people just see things differently I suppose. The main thing I keep hearing from people is that because her eye is not separated from the duct/corner of the eye socket, they believe her to be crying, but I did a count, and in the first issue alone Buffy's eyes are drawn exactly like that in all but 6 panels (which are more detailed, close-up shots). I guess if it gives people hope that their ship is going to happen, then I guess I'm happy that they're happy... I think ( ... )

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