I actually like.. watching Eleven (in series 5). I like writing for him because I can elaborate and fuck with and fix what Moffat did with him in the canon. But judging strictly on canon alone I can't say I necessarily like him - especially in series 6, but then, series 6 was a fucking disaster and a disgrace to all that is Doctor Who, so...
But yeah. Moffat in general HATES showing consequences for actions. I mean, ffs, look at what happened with Amy and Rory -- Amy treats Rory like crap throughout series 5, no consequences (obviously this is the mildest possible example lol); Amy gets kidnapped and forced to remain pregnant without being conscious of it and give birth as soon as she "wakes up", no real consequences; Amy and Rory's baby gets kidnapped to be turned into a killer, NO CONSEQUENCES (as in, no emotional reaction, they just ~move on like, instantly). And all that you detailed re: the Doctor.
Basically if you're watching a Moffat show, don't expect anything to really come of anything. He won't do
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Honestly, the ONLY way season six can be saved is by having them wake up in season seven and realized is it was all A FUCKING DREAM. Yeah, we'd lose "The Doctor's Wife", but it's be more than worth it to also lose incubator Amy and humans committing brainwashed-induced genocide. Hell, I think we'd get rid the Silents altogether, which is fine by me; I fucking hated that plot line.
Seriously. That'd be nice, but it won't happen because Moffat loves his own plots. He is enamored of his own writing and thinks he's the best thing since sliced bread. He'd never "take it back." Sadly. Ugh.
Moffat is the worst TV writer and showrunner I've ever had the displeasure to have come into one of the shows I like. He's ruined Doctor Who for me. I have a feeling Sherlock won't be far behind - it survives because Gatiss is around to counterbalance Moffat's asshattery, but who knows how long that'll last. UGH.
(And seriously, am I the only person in all of Who fandom who just hated "The Doctor's Wife"? I thought it was completely horrific. Okay, maybe that's just me.)
Seriously. That'd be nice, but it won't happen because Moffat loves his own plots.
Yeah, I know it's not gong to HAPPEN, but...
I have a feeling Sherlock won't be far behind.
Honestly, I'm kinda more upset about Sherlock at this point... maybe because there's 30+ years of DW I can enjoy (including one actually GOOD season with Eleven), while Sherlock is only 2 seasons on, and only three eps per, so if it starts sucking, there's almost nothing of it to watch.
ASiB is the only episode I've deleted from my hard-drive. I just... can't... ~_~
Really, I wish Steven Moffat would stop writing. It's not just the gender-fail, either, he's just... not that good at it. As someone said, he cares more about OH, SHINY! (like catchphrases he then runs into the ground, and "clever" [cough] plot-twists) than stuff like plots that make sense or keeping characters consistent.
The only episode I kept was Reichenbach. Really, it's saying something when the best episode of a series is written by Stephen Thompson, and even then I'm only just occasionally excited about it. At least it was the only episode that felt like it could possibly take place in our universe, instead of a hilarious Scifi flick or the rageyness that is Scandal.
I like Hounds. And.. what's scifi about it? Mind altering drugs? No, those exists.. Glowing animals? No, those exist (I'm not kidding... way before I saw "Hounds", I saw articles about glowing cats). So I'm not sure what you're referring to. Maybe just the over all tone? I can kinda see that., but... [shrug] I liked it.
Yeah, true, there were way easier ways to deal with Henry Knight, all things considered. I'm not sure about the glowing thing. Though I thought the bunny already glowed and Kirstie just noticed it that once becasue it as night...? I dunno... You're right about the "zooming in to hide the budget" thing, though. Hee.
In Hound's defence, I will say that terrified!John locking himself inside one of the animal cages is one of my very favorite moments in Sherlock ever. He was so scared his voice was going, but he held out until he thought the dog was right on top of him, before making a cage into a fortress.
I've rewatched it.. okay, I've rewatched the scene in Buckingham Palace about sixty-four times and never touched the rest of it.
Completely agreed, omg. Moffat's plots SUCK -- they have massive, huge plot-holes just barely covered over in ~timey-wimey~ and shiny and whatever he thinks is "scary", he takes characters waaay out of character to suit whatever badly-done story he wants to tell, he's a sexist asshole and it shows in everything he writes, his characters are shallow as a puddle after a spring rain at best, he reuses the same plot devices over and over and over, and even the "clever" dialogue everyone says they love isn't very clever. He is a TERRIBLE writer. He's just very good at distracting his audience from noticing how terrible he is by rushing everything too fast, showing all kinds of ~shiny shit to confuse and astound, and making up loads of fairy tale monsters to keep people from looking too hard at the plot
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I've rewatched it.. okay, I've rewatched the scene in Buckingham Palace about sixty-four times and never touched the rest of it.
Yeah, that scene's really fun. There IS some stuff in it I like, but I have to ff/skip/whatever too much stuff for it to be worth keeping.
he takes characters waaay out of character to suit whatever badly-done story he wants to tell
He also does it to make his own characters look good, Like Eleven being all excited about River shooting the Silents in "Day of the Moon". The Doctor even mentions how much he hates guns and would usually not be happy with how... enthusiastic she is about it. But since it's River fucking Song, it's fine! Moffat, you do realize acknowledging your terribly OOC writing doesn't excuse it, right? Ya goddamn hack...
I honestly can't see him willingly giving up DW unless he's allowed to completely end it, forever, when he goes.
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I actually like.. watching Eleven (in series 5). I like writing for him because I can elaborate and fuck with and fix what Moffat did with him in the canon. But judging strictly on canon alone I can't say I necessarily like him - especially in series 6, but then, series 6 was a fucking disaster and a disgrace to all that is Doctor Who, so...
But yeah. Moffat in general HATES showing consequences for actions. I mean, ffs, look at what happened with Amy and Rory -- Amy treats Rory like crap throughout series 5, no consequences (obviously this is the mildest possible example lol); Amy gets kidnapped and forced to remain pregnant without being conscious of it and give birth as soon as she "wakes up", no real consequences; Amy and Rory's baby gets kidnapped to be turned into a killer, NO CONSEQUENCES (as in, no emotional reaction, they just ~move on like, instantly). And all that you detailed re: the Doctor.
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JUST.
SO ACCURATE.
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Oh, and Steven Moffat can go fuck himself.
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Moffat is the worst TV writer and showrunner I've ever had the displeasure to have come into one of the shows I like. He's ruined Doctor Who for me. I have a feeling Sherlock won't be far behind - it survives because Gatiss is around to counterbalance Moffat's asshattery, but who knows how long that'll last. UGH.
(And seriously, am I the only person in all of Who fandom who just hated "The Doctor's Wife"? I thought it was completely horrific. Okay, maybe that's just me.)
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Yeah, I know it's not gong to HAPPEN, but...
I have a feeling Sherlock won't be far behind.
Honestly, I'm kinda more upset about Sherlock at this point... maybe because there's 30+ years of DW I can enjoy (including one actually GOOD season with Eleven), while Sherlock is only 2 seasons on, and only three eps per, so if it starts sucking, there's almost nothing of it to watch.
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Really, I wish Steven Moffat would stop writing. It's not just the gender-fail, either, he's just... not that good at it. As someone said, he cares more about OH, SHINY! (like catchphrases he then runs into the ground, and "clever" [cough] plot-twists) than stuff like plots that make sense or keeping characters consistent.
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Completely agreed, omg. Moffat's plots SUCK -- they have massive, huge plot-holes just barely covered over in ~timey-wimey~ and shiny and whatever he thinks is "scary", he takes characters waaay out of character to suit whatever badly-done story he wants to tell, he's a sexist asshole and it shows in everything he writes, his characters are shallow as a puddle after a spring rain at best, he reuses the same plot devices over and over and over, and even the "clever" dialogue everyone says they love isn't very clever. He is a TERRIBLE writer. He's just very good at distracting his audience from noticing how terrible he is by rushing everything too fast, showing all kinds of ~shiny shit to confuse and astound, and making up loads of fairy tale monsters to keep people from looking too hard at the plot ( ... )
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Yeah, that scene's really fun. There IS some stuff in it I like, but I have to ff/skip/whatever too much stuff for it to be worth keeping.
he takes characters waaay out of character to suit whatever badly-done story he wants to tell
He also does it to make his own characters look good, Like Eleven being all excited about River shooting the Silents in "Day of the Moon". The Doctor even mentions how much he hates guns and would usually not be happy with how... enthusiastic she is about it. But since it's River fucking Song, it's fine! Moffat, you do realize acknowledging your terribly OOC writing doesn't excuse it, right? Ya goddamn hack...
I honestly can't see him willingly giving up DW unless he's allowed to completely end it, forever, when he goes.
I certainly hope not... ~_~
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