[ SECRET POST #1894 ]

Mar 10, 2012 15:30

⌈ Secret Post #1894 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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fauxkaren March 10 2012, 21:37:04 UTC
COPY PASTA FROM SOMETHING I WROTE FOR FANDOM MARCH MADNESS BECAUSE I'M LAZY ( ... )

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fenm March 11 2012, 02:08:17 UTC
Film Brain looks upset over the loss of the episode, too. Either that or Todd in the Shadows finally roped him into watching Crossroads with him... (-:

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lit_wolf March 11 2012, 02:15:30 UTC
LOL XP

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fenm March 11 2012, 02:21:29 UTC
Linkara! (he's a man, [punch!], wears a purty hat!)

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lit_wolf March 11 2012, 22:18:43 UTC
Linkara! (he has a magic gun, where'd he purchase that?)

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fenm March 13 2012, 01:41:24 UTC
This! Comic! Sucks!
Linka~ara!

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_thirty2flavors March 11 2012, 00:16:46 UTC
Bless you and this comment.

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fauxkaren March 10 2012, 22:21:50 UTC
So basically it was self-preservation? So that the Doctor wouldn't die in the library?

Because idk. I'd see the Doctor saving Melody as saving River from a life of captivity and brainwashing. So maybe it'd erase River exactly as we know her, but it would also save her from everything she went through with the Silence.

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fauxkaren March 10 2012, 22:37:06 UTC
...River wouldn't have died in the library either if he'd saved Melody. If he'd saved Melody, they wouldn't have ended up in the situation in "Let's Kill Hitler" where they took her to the hospital in the 51st century and she wouldn't have been there to study arcehology there and go to prison in the 51st century etc etc etc.

But if he was choosing to save River over Melody, he should have manned up and told Amy and Rory that instead of letting them believe that he was actually going to save their baby.

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_thirty2flavors March 11 2012, 00:21:14 UTC
Honestly I wouldn't even give a shit -- okay, well, I would give less of a shit -- if in the end, timelines have to be preserved because reasons blah blah blah can't save Melody because River blah blah. Fine, okay, whatever, I'd still call shenanigans on this plot being written in the first place, but at least it would make some modicum of sense... IF, at any point, the Doctor and the Ponds had had a discussion -- maybe even an argument?! :O -- about it. But it never gets discussed in the text at all. We can ASSUME that the Doctor's doing it because he wants to preserve River and because of one line River said three years ago in another episode, but the show never drew attention to that, never had Amy or Rory question it, never had the Doctor think about the consequences, never had River herself say anything about it... it just doesn't happen because, as has been mentioned, Moffat doesn't give a shit about the emotional consequences of his ~timey-wimey~~~ plotlines and gotcha moments.

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fauxkaren March 11 2012, 00:32:13 UTC
It was just like... Moffat didn't care enough to actually engage with his own story and to explore its consequences for his characters.

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fauxkaren March 10 2012, 22:29:05 UTC
Except River didn't/wouldn't want him to. She said as much in the library. "Time can be rewritten!" "Not those times. Don't you dare." Even with all the pain she's gone through, she cherishes her life and her relationship with him as it is now too much to let the Doctor go back and save her, and change everything.

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fauxkaren March 10 2012, 22:32:05 UTC
That didn't really seem to stop him in The Girl Who Waited. Yes, it was ultimately Old!Amy who made the choice. But before she made the choice, Eleven had already decided that Old!Amy needed to be erased.

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fauxkaren March 11 2012, 05:42:35 UTC
Because what Young!Amy wanted didn't matter? What Rory wanted didn't matter? Rory had said it already: "I wanted to live those years with you."

He'd already picked Young!Amy.

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