Supernatural: four episodes...

[fajrdrako]

Tonight I sat down with maaseru and explodedteabag and we watched the last four episodes of Supernatural all in a row. Four episodes at once - we'd fallen behind in watching. We saw "Point of No Return", "Hammer of the Gods", "The Devil You Know" and "Two Minutes to Midnight".

Comments

[angelfireeast]

I was really hoping you'd write reviews for Supernatural again because I really love reading your thoughts about each episodes. You always have the best discussions rather then just reaction like "that cool".

Point of No Return

#1 Loved the beginning, with Zachariah in the bar. Zachariah briefly became interesting again.

I really liked that scene at the bar. I thought it was really good and worked really well with that his rant about being the best worker and how he's lost respect of the other angels because of Dean.

# What's this with Adam becoming a potential vessel for Lucifer? I thought this might happen to Ben, since he's on the right side of the bloodline (by which I mean being Mary's grandson), and, you know, alive, but Adam? If the Michael brigade can take any random Winchester and raise him from the dead to be Michael's vessel, why not take John's father, or great-grandfather from the grave?I thought Ben would be potential vessel for Micheal. He bloodline right from Dean, Micheal's true vessel. Like Jimmy and his

[fajrdrako]

I really love reading your thoughts about each episodes. You always have the best discussions rather then just reaction like "that cool".

So glad you enjoy my comments. I always have thoughts. I'd have said more last night if I weren't so tired. I think four hours of watching wore me out.

Why not bring back John, who must be a strong vessel?

I wish they would - John being a major favourite character of mine. I'd love to see what he'd do in all of this.

I agree with your points about Adam. I don't see a lot of personal strength there. Since the Winchesters have such strong personalities, I was thinking, "How could this be John's son?" Still, strong fathers often have weak sons, and vice versa. But he isn't very impressive or interesting.

they were all cannibalistic just to show us they are monsters in case we forgot, like the x-mas Gods.

Yeah, good point. They couldn't make them seem benign. So we needed human sacrifice.

I loved that Lucifer was upset that he killed his brother.Lucifer's finest moment, as far as I'm concerned

[angelfireeast]

So glad you enjoy my comments. I always have thoughts. I'd have said more last night if I weren't so tired. I think four hours of watching wore me out.

:) Four hours is a long time for one sitting.

I wish they would - John being a major favourite character of mine. I'd love to see what he'd do in all of this.

I really think the biggest reason we not seeing John is they can't get the JDM because he's just so busy. We've seen young John twice already. And we saw Mary again. I wonder if we would have seen John in Heaven happy memories of Dean if they could've got the actor.

I agree with your points about Adam. I don't see a lot of personal strength there. Since the Winchesters have such strong personalities, I was thinking, "How could this be John's son?" Still, strong fathers often have weak sons, and vice versa. But he isn't very impressive or interesting.I know what you mean. I still think it was mistake to bring Adam into the story. I guess they had this exact vessel storyline in mind the whole time but I dunno I still don't care

[fajrdrako]

Four hours is a long time for one sitting

It was fun, in a delightfully self-indulgent way.

I still think it was mistake to bring Adam into the story.

Unless it's a set-up to use Ben as the vessel tomorrow, I think both appearances of Adam made for weak stories. Pointless. But it did make for some good Zachariah scenes.

I don't want Castiel to be human forever - he'd be just another guy then. Eventually. But for him to be an angel again, with an interest in Dean, so he stays around; or for him to be an ex-angel living a mortal life for a while - either of those things would be fine.

I'd like to see more of Castiel, and I always like scenes between him and Dean.

[liliaeth]

Now much as I didn't like the gods eating humans, that still doesn't make them canibalistic*g*

They aren't human to begin with, so for them eating human flesh, is just like a sheepherder eating some of his/her flock.

[fajrdrako]

Hmm. Okay, I take your point, but they were in humanoid form. In any case, my question remains: why were they eating humans?

I like your icon.

[liliaeth]

Well, I tend to think that in the same way that angels and demons take human hosts, so do the pagan gods. (Kali is supposed to have loads of hands after all.) I'm thinking that the way they all wore nametags confirmed that. So if that's the case, which I really think it is, then they wear humanoid forms, as a form of meatsuit. Once again, the way a sheep herder might wear a woolskin coat.

As for the eating humans... They like the taste? Ok, you got me, don't really have an answer for that one. As I said, I didn't like it much either. Espcially with a god like Ganesh, who is in no way or how associated with human sacrifice.

And thanks, I tend to think that icon came out pretty well :-)

[fajrdrako]

if that's the case, which I really think it is, then they wear humanoid forms, as a form of meatsuit. Once again, the way a sheep herder might wear a woolskin coat.

Yeah, I like all of that. I'd agree. Thought I'm not sure about the illusion when Dean thought he saw an elephant. Perhaps it's like - sometimes you can get a glimpse of wings, with the angels? The real form tends to appear beyond the meat suit, just to be glimpsed by the perceptive?

They like the taste?

Could be! Or it could be some sort of essence-empowering thing.

Espcially with a god like Ganesh, who is in no way or how associated with human sacrifice.

Yeah. He seemed quite anomalous there. Out of place. But I think they were trying to skew perceptions.

The icon's a winner.

[karra]

Is Ben a Winchester? I thought his mom said he wasn't.

[fajrdrako]

Yes, Lisa told Dean that he wasn't Ben's father. I think she lied. I can't prove it!