When in doubt - FFA Post # 240

Aug 21, 2013 20:13

Ask a Magic 8-Ball. Its advice is almost as good as meme's!

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TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 24 2013, 23:40:10 UTC
http://thefourthvine.dreamwidth.org/178813.html

Podfic wank, round whatever, start your engines.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 24 2013, 23:45:12 UTC
This is all very nice, I guess, but what if you lean towards no podficcing, but don't want a blanket no statement because it seems likely to bring about wank in the circles you run in?

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 24 2013, 23:52:06 UTC
You won't be wanked, you'll wind up on the Podficcer Blacklist: http://amplificathon.livejournal.com/1595916.html

To save other podficcers from the same fate, we'd like to create a list of authors podficcers might want to be careful about. This can be because the author will say no, but it can also be warnings for other things. Like, that an author was hard to deal with, or they that they'll host a copy of your podfic without tell you, etc.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 24 2013, 23:57:27 UTC
ayrt
Yeah, see, I wouldn't mind that? But I know people who would mind me being on a list like that, because they're very loudly Pro-Podfic, and I would rather not deal with them.

Though I guess they would be more pissed off if they found out I had no statement but was saying no on an individual basis. IDK. I feel like there's no winning here if you're just not into being podficced.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:08:00 UTC
I don't know why you would voluntarily elect to be shunned or whatever...

Maybe it's just me, but isn't mutual pretending-we-don't-know-you're-there okay, really?

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:14:19 UTC
DA

Apparently not, because people suffer trauma when they think about having to contact you.

IDK. This whole thing seems like a way to shift the burden of communication away from the podficcers. And as long as they're the ones who want the podfic (because, no matter what thefourthvine says, I don't think the majority of fic authors are sitting around waiting to be podficced; most of them probably don't think about it), they should be the ones to bear that burden.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:18:56 UTC
da

Yeah, what's with all of these people? If it were phrased as a "hey, people who like podfic and would love to have more podfic of their works! A BP is a great way to encourage podfic," I would be less weirded out.

I mean, outside of fandom, if you want to adapt someone else's work, say make a movie or a play out of it, usually you just (wo)man up and contact them.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 02:21:45 UTC
+ 1, I like the idea of people being positive about something they enjoy, and if this whole permissions/blanket statement thing was framed that way I'd be a lot more comfortable.

I don't have a BP up partly because I've a few people on my flist/circle who've got a tendency towrds toxic levels of evangelism about podfics, and my position of "for most fics I don't care but ask because there's a few I don't want podficced" would just be an invitation for them to start preaching at me about how I shoiuld always say yes.

Shifting the obligation for communication to the authors and accompanyimg it with this guilt trip about how they have to do it because it'll help people just doesn't sit right. And I love the assumption that alleviating the possible social anxiety of all podficcers is more important than any anxiety about the issue that writer's might have.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 08:36:30 UTC
Yeah, it's not like social anxitiy is restricted to podficcers.

I've a few people on my flist/circle who've got a tendency towrds toxic levels of evangelism about podfics

I had a blanket statment up for the longest time, but this is what I see happening in my circle and it really makes me uneasy about podfic in general now. I put it up, because I wanted other people to have fun in fandom, not to make a moral statement or "help people".

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 08:31:10 UTC
I don't understand this either. I have nothing against them asking people who are okay with podfic to put up blanket statments to be encouriging.

But other then that: just ask or leave it be. Nobody is forcing you to contact the authors, but the podficcer is the one who wants something here.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:14:19 UTC
The discussion on the Dreamwidth version of that post is even worse:

http://amplificathon.dreamwidth.org/2081788.html

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:24:29 UTC
I like how the issue with Cesperanza is, "the point of including her is that she archives the work of others (doesn't link, but actually archives on her site) without their permission or knowledge, and that they have no recourse or control as a result."

The podfic issue is eating itself at this point.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 00:25:48 UTC
da

Plus...that's factually incorrect.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 03:38:45 UTC
I wish they hadn't included that second bit. There is recourse, you can go and get it removed or whatever. That's not the point that bothers most of us. That's not even near the point that bothers most of us.

-one of the anti-Open Doors memers

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 01:26:04 UTC
I saw that too! That's hilarious.

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Re: TheFourthVine Weighs in on Podfic Blanket Statements anonymous August 25 2013, 01:31:25 UTC
I always assumed it was roundabout grudgewank, if you take a minute to consider who those two people are and where else they've clashed.

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