I need to check if free schooling is allowed on our yard, as on my old one it was not allowed. As I would really like to be able to let him see the school as a fun place. When we first had him and we free schooled him at our old yard he went mad running around the edge trying to get out. He really was scared and hated it. Now he is not so bad but he still has the need to make an excuse to get out, like the bucking thing.
As for riding other horses that is very do-able and I have ridden about 4 times on school horses, as they have 60 of them! I think I'll up it and do an hour a week on a school horse, get a better seat etc.
Thanks for the advice! I'm definately going to save this all, all these comments to reffer back to.
Not even neccessarily free schooling, even just ketting him loose in their to do as he wishes and explore a bit. As long as you're sure he's not going to go anywhere though!
I can't emphasise the riding other horses thing enough, I've had a couple of confidence knocks and riding other horses seems to help like nothing else!
No problem, glad I could help :) I've had two "problem" horses over the years (the little Welsh I mentioned before and another one) and I always regret the fact that I couldn't deal with the second one and had to give up on her.
Actually, you got it!z111December 30 2007, 05:23:37 UTC
"For example, if my mare's going to buck she'll duck her head and neck at a certain angle that noone other than me would realise has a meaning. "
Actually, that's pretty universal. Said it earlier, but it's worth repeating...a horse cannot physically buck without first doing a head down. Here's some random bucking videos from youtube. Not sure if the whole thing is worth watching in either case, but within 30 seconds, both will show you what I mean about the head going down first. Watch:
See the head go down? (That horse has a lot more problems than just bucking...she's riding him all strung out, the horse is off balance, and probably bucking just to try to keep his feet under himself.)
I tried the desk and chair thing, I think I see what you mean! Although am I supposed to be so slouched? Anything to stay on lol!
As for breathing my God I know, I lierally hold my breath and don't notice. I am so nervous and it's silly, I rode him fine for months really happilly and now this has just blown it away. I need to get back in the saddle!
Thanks for all the advice. I'd love to hear more about what sort of ground work to do with him, if you have the time at any point, as all I know how to do is lunge on a line with a cavesson! I'm so not in tune with him and I need to be more!
Ok, I do just have to add that as far as teaching him the arena is safe, I would do some desensitization work with him, approach and retreat stuff like they do in Parelli, happy to explain in more detail if you want. Also, very simple thing to do is to feed him in there, whether it's carrots or hay or grain...and just take him in on a leadline when you aren't going to ride him and give him all the time in the world to check out every nook and cranny. Really really reward him for being curious and investigating things with his nose...that's a sign he's relaxing and coming off the adrenaline. Investigating things with his nose= time for another carrot!
Now that is a good idea. If my RS allows free schooling which I hope they do, I want to be able to just play with him in there, carrots and all and no lunge whip or pressure of performing or a rider on his back. And like you say let him explore it all.
Everyone has given excellent advice! Core body strength, stronger leg, better balance, relaxing, and time in the saddle. I think it's just something that takes time
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Haha, i would have to agree that a lot of time with the bucking barrel will help your seat. I had a similar experience, only i just rode all the crazy horses no one else wanted to, and got the velco-seat from that. also right: your other eq will suffer to some degree. i took dressage lessons later, and that helped me to fix the finer points in my position.
You know my Dad suggested using one of those nucking barrels as a joke but I think I might actually take him up on it! Might be useful!
I think my whole issue is the fear now. Not the fear of the landing just the fall and the initial heart stopping moment where he canters sideways.
Woah is a good idea, I sometimes wonder if he knows English LOL because he was imported a year or so ago so I wonder if I should start learning WOAH in Belgian hahaha!
"sitting" a buck is not really about just sitting there, you need a strong leg to wrap around your horse and send them forward. I would honestly recommend more lessons and a more advanced rider to push him through these bucking fits. and i'll also echo chiro and saddle fit things...
Yeah I need to get a better lower leg, I need to concentrate on riding him not sitting and waiting for him to spook which is what I have been doing. Just sitting there like a lemon!
Also though, he does not seem to buck other people off, so I don't think anyone else riding him would make a difference to how he is with me.
Then again he might not do it again, he did only do it the 3 times. I have doubts though lol.
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As for riding other horses that is very do-able and I have ridden about 4 times on school horses, as they have 60 of them! I think I'll up it and do an hour a week on a school horse, get a better seat etc.
Thanks for the advice!
I'm definately going to save this all, all these comments to reffer back to.
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I can't emphasise the riding other horses thing enough, I've had a couple of confidence knocks and riding other horses seems to help like nothing else!
No problem, glad I could help :) I've had two "problem" horses over the years (the little Welsh I mentioned before and another one) and I always regret the fact that I couldn't deal with the second one and had to give up on her.
Good luck!
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Actually, that's pretty universal. Said it earlier, but it's worth repeating...a horse cannot physically buck without first doing a head down. Here's some random bucking videos from youtube. Not sure if the whole thing is worth watching in either case, but within 30 seconds, both will show you what I mean about the head going down first.
Watch:
See the head go down? (That horse has a lot more problems than just bucking...she's riding him all strung out, the horse is off balance, and probably bucking just to try to keep his feet under himself.)
Now, here's another. Again, watch the head:
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Anything to stay on lol!
As for breathing my God I know, I lierally hold my breath and don't notice. I am so nervous and it's silly, I rode him fine for months really happilly and now this has just blown it away. I need to get back in the saddle!
Thanks for all the advice. I'd love to hear more about what sort of ground work to do with him, if you have the time at any point, as all I know how to do is lunge on a line with a cavesson! I'm so not in tune with him and I need to be more!
Thanks so much for all the advice!
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If my RS allows free schooling which I hope they do, I want to be able to just play with him in there, carrots and all and no lunge whip or pressure of performing or a rider on his back. And like you say let him explore it all.
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Might be useful!
I think my whole issue is the fear now.
Not the fear of the landing just the fall and the initial heart stopping moment where he canters sideways.
Woah is a good idea, I sometimes wonder if he knows English LOL because he was imported a year or so ago so I wonder if I should start learning WOAH in Belgian hahaha!
Thanks for the advice, I was definately take it
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I would honestly recommend more lessons and a more advanced rider to push him through these bucking fits.
and i'll also echo chiro and saddle fit things...
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Also though, he does not seem to buck other people off, so I don't think anyone else riding him would make a difference to how he is with me.
Then again he might not do it again, he did only do it the 3 times.
I have doubts though lol.
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