Considering how much foreshadowing they've been throwing in about the Doctor losing Clara- at this point- I highly doubt that Clara will actually die. 'Leaving' and 'dying' are different things...
There's also 'metaphorical' dying (like Roes with "I am Rose Tyler, and this is the story of how I died.") Also Donna... Although I don't think they'll go either route. Something DIFFERENT for Clara.
Gallifreyan Time Egg!Clara. Maybe one of her echoes could have been one. :D Oh no, has to be the original. See LEAF.
Clara is a hybrid, too, of course - we see that in her very first episode as Oswin Oswald. She is a Dalek but she is also the Doctor's saviour and friend, machine and human, dead yet alive. (And Danny then mirrored her in this when he also became her saviour in the form of a Cyberman, machine and human, dead yet alive). She was both impossible and ordinary. We were then given a timely reminder of this in The Witch's Familiar when Missy enclosed her inside a Dalek shell
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Clara is a hybrid, too, of course Oh totally. But since I think I've talked about this in every single post so far, I'd figured I'd skip it this time and just focus on Me, and what Me's fate can maybe tell us about Clara...
I mean, SO MANY GREAT FEMALE CHARACTERS AAAAAH. IKR? I was mentioning this the other day to Owls - I'm a bit apprehensive about the Zygon episodes, but SO MANY WOMEN! Clara, Kate, Osgood, UNIT science lady (I need to look up her name). All the main parts - apart from the Doctor - are women. And how utterly awesome is that? :)
But then Jack WAS buried under Welsh marshland during the 17th century so how would she? Very true. (I might have a little ficlet knocking about in my head about when they first meet...)
I also suspect that Ashildr's met Missy (although I doubt she knows the extent of their relationship) what with her "Enemies are never a problem. It's your friends you have to watch out for" and her judgement of him. Well, she's met SOMEONE, clearly. Missy would be awesome.
Re: You Know WhoelisiOctober 30 2015, 13:20:04 UTC
Nice! But you make me nervous, damn you. (shakes fist) *I* make you nervous? Moffat has been slacking then. ;)
it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fit it -and Miracle Day- into post RTD Doctor Who canon. Personally, I usually consider them -and most of Torchwood- to be in their own, nice, slightly alternate universe.Well, Children of Earth isn't too difficult. It's set in 2009 - so, before Eleven turns up - and most of the population probably didn't know exactly how far and how desperate it all was. There were weird aliens (and compared to the Dalek invasion the year before...), but in the end everything was fine
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October 30 2015, 23:12:27 UTC
As for Miracle Day (supposedly set between AGMGTW and LKH!) then the explanation is very simple: The crack ate it. Gone! Isn’t our fandom amazing? Yes. Yes it is. Do *you* have such neat explanations Marvel? Do you? OM NOM NOM NOM.
"I am a crack on crack and I eat plot holes!" (gets booed)
I love all your talk about what does (and doesn't) constitute canon. Esp mystical, long-lost Hairdryer of Rassilon that fell into a black hole. I case you didn't know - Doctor Who doesn't have a canon. (Relevant post here) Well, I’m glad that it’s canon that our show doesn’t have a canon!...Wait... Also, “I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God”, is one of the greatest and most hilarious similes ever. (Seriously though Dawkins, tone it down a bit. Okay, I’m religious -I classify myself as a humanist anti-nihilist and an Orthodox Christian/Nature-Worshipping/Agnostic hybrid, so I’m not the norm I think, but anyway- but you are annoying atheists with your stance! Wow. Not helping your cause, is what I’m saying. There’s a very nice
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Re: You Know WhoelisiOctober 30 2015, 23:28:19 UTC
Isn’t our fandom amazing? Yes. Yes it is. Do *you* have such neat explanations Marvel? Do you? OM NOM NOM NOM. The crack is the BEST random plot point ever.
"I am a crack on crack and I eat plot holes!" (gets booed) *cheers*
Well, I’m glad that it’s canon that our show doesn’t have a canon!...Wait... LOL.
Also, “I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God”, is one of the greatest and most hilarious similes ever. I love that post.
Isn't there enough pointless arguing and petty hate in the world already? Can’t we all just get along? [Distributes hugs to friends of various beliefs and non-beliefs alike]) If god doesn't exist... Then surely he should just chill. Why get angry over something that's made up? An if God DOES exist - well, God loves him anyway. <3
It is my most sincere conviction that Moffat writes by the Reverse Don Bluth Principle: No matter how happy an ending is, if the characters go through complete, absolute, total, fucking HELL first, the Whovians will be able to take it (and like it a lot) :)Oh totally.
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*Draws hearts everywhere*
*SQUISHES*
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Well done!
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(And I did it before Saturday afternoon! Go me! *g*)
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Considering how much foreshadowing they've been throwing in about the Doctor losing Clara- at this point- I highly doubt that Clara will actually die.
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'Leaving' and 'dying' are different things...
(SHE COULD STILL BE A GALLIFREYAN EGG!)
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Gallifreyan Time Egg!Clara. Maybe one of her echoes could have been one. :D
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Also Donna... Although I don't think they'll go either route. Something DIFFERENT for Clara.
Gallifreyan Time Egg!Clara. Maybe one of her echoes could have been one. :D
Oh no, has to be the original. See LEAF.
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Oh totally. But since I think I've talked about this in every single post so far, I'd figured I'd skip it this time and just focus on Me, and what Me's fate can maybe tell us about Clara...
I mean, SO MANY GREAT FEMALE CHARACTERS AAAAAH.
IKR? I was mentioning this the other day to Owls - I'm a bit apprehensive about the Zygon episodes, but SO MANY WOMEN! Clara, Kate, Osgood, UNIT science lady (I need to look up her name). All the main parts - apart from the Doctor - are women. And how utterly awesome is that? :)
But then Jack WAS buried under Welsh marshland during the 17th century so how would she?
Very true. (I might have a little ficlet knocking about in my head about when they first meet...)
I also suspect that Ashildr's met Missy (although I doubt she knows the extent of their relationship) what with her "Enemies are never a problem. It's your friends you have to watch out for" and her judgement of him.
Well, she's met SOMEONE, clearly. Missy would be awesome.
if this doesn't sum up Jack-in- ( ... )
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Excellent, I'd love to read it!
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*I* make you nervous? Moffat has been slacking then. ;)
it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to fit it -and Miracle Day- into post RTD Doctor Who canon. Personally, I usually consider them -and most of Torchwood- to be in their own, nice, slightly alternate universe.Well, Children of Earth isn't too difficult. It's set in 2009 - so, before Eleven turns up - and most of the population probably didn't know exactly how far and how desperate it all was. There were weird aliens (and compared to the Dalek invasion the year before...), but in the end everything was fine ( ... )
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Isn’t our fandom amazing? Yes. Yes it is. Do *you* have such neat explanations Marvel? Do you? OM NOM NOM NOM.
"I am a crack on crack and I eat plot holes!" (gets booed)
I love all your talk about what does (and doesn't) constitute canon. Esp mystical, long-lost Hairdryer of Rassilon that fell into a black hole. I case you didn't know - Doctor Who doesn't have a canon. (Relevant post here)
Well, I’m glad that it’s canon that our show doesn’t have a canon!...Wait...
Also, “I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God”, is one of the greatest and most hilarious similes ever.
(Seriously though Dawkins, tone it down a bit. Okay, I’m religious -I classify myself as a humanist anti-nihilist and an Orthodox Christian/Nature-Worshipping/Agnostic hybrid, so I’m not the norm I think, but anyway- but you are annoying atheists with your stance! Wow. Not helping your cause, is what I’m saying. There’s a very nice ( ... )
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The crack is the BEST random plot point ever.
"I am a crack on crack and I eat plot holes!" (gets booed)
*cheers*
Well, I’m glad that it’s canon that our show doesn’t have a canon!...Wait...
LOL.
Also, “I hate the Doctor Who canon like Dawkins hates God”, is one of the greatest and most hilarious similes ever.
I love that post.
Isn't there enough pointless arguing and petty hate in the world already? Can’t we all just get along? [Distributes hugs to friends of various beliefs and non-beliefs alike])
If god doesn't exist... Then surely he should just chill. Why get angry over something that's made up? An if God DOES exist - well, God loves him anyway. <3
It is my most sincere conviction that Moffat writes by the Reverse Don Bluth Principle: No matter how happy an ending is, if the characters go through complete, absolute, total, fucking HELL first, the Whovians will be able to take it (and like it a lot) :)Oh totally. ( ... )
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