Comments | eilowyn: Spuffy is an Action Movie

eilowyn

Spuffy is an Action Movie

Nov 15, 2010 17:58

I saw an icon today that was clearly the cover to a paperback romance novel manipped to have it be Buffy and Angel, and it made me think. I had a huge paperback romance phase from about age 16 to age 22 (ironically when I delved into fandom and found romance novels written by fans about my favorite characters to be much more fulfilling), but seeing ( Read more... )

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shipperx November 16 2010, 02:27:29 UTC

I think I saw that romance icon!

snickfic November 16 2010, 02:40:00 UTC

I have a DW invite - I'll pm you.

deird1 November 16 2010, 02:58:36 UTC

I probably have an AO3 code, but it'll have to wait until I get home. Maybe a few hours?

lostboy_lj November 16 2010, 03:14:02 UTC

I agree 10,000%!!!

Spot on.

flake_sake November 16 2010, 06:39:02 UTC

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I agree that Buffy and Angel are designed to fit a romance novel set up, including the morose gender stereotypes, even though before the comics they at least tried to work against those.

Disagree about Buffy and Spike though. I don't think Spike is Buffy's Lois Lane. Spike does stuff, he has his own journey and his own heroic deeds. His main role is decidedly not love interest, which is what made him an interesting lover for Buffy in the first place. Spike is Buffy's equal where the strengths of their narratives is concerned.

Each of them rescues the other occasionally and that Spike is not constantly in the stereotype male role does not mean he's in the female one 24/7 either. They are both in both roles, it's what I like best about them.

I don't think the comics fit in with that, because comic Buffy is a moron. I need my lovers to be equals and comic Buffy does not qualify.

eilowyn November 16 2010, 13:56:47 UTC

Disagree about Buffy and Spike though. I don't think Spike is Buffy's Lois Lane. Spike does stuff, he has his own journey and his own heroic deeds. His main role is decidedly not love interest, which is what made him an interesting lover for Buffy in the first place. Spike is Buffy's equal where the strengths of their narratives is concerned.

Each of them rescues the other occasionally and that Spike is not constantly in the stereotype male role does not mean he's in the female one 24/7 either. They are both in both roles, it's what I like best about them.I'll cede the point to you. I mostly meant that Spike was Lois Lane because this is ultimately Buffy's story, but on reflection he does take off and have his own narrative that is equal to Buffy's. He's not the Megan Fox character from the Transformers movies because he's not just a piece of ass with no good characterization other than being a piece of ass ( ... )

flake_sake November 16 2010, 14:17:39 UTC

I guess if we stay within the superhero comparisons Spike is probably catwoman. Introduced as a villain and hence a person in their own right but then getting background and a redemption arc so that their story crosses over with the hero.