Dear lolita brands, stop putting crosses on everything!

[johorror]

I never see anyone talking about this (I've seen it like once a loong time ago), so I'm wondering if anyone else is just as annoyed, for lack of a better word, as I am about lolita brands putting crosses on everything now? I understand it for like gothic brands/themes because they take from gothic architecture like elaborate cathedrals and stuff,

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Pastel Goth

[vatalanta]

I think the reason for all the crosses in sweet lolita, is the current Pastel goth/grunge trend, which is heavily inspired by Fairy Kei. I don't think the motif itself is the problem, more they just put the motif in everywhere. I am fan of themes, so I don't mind theres is 2 crosses on my Angel otks, but I find it rather mysterious on Milky Cross, because I always think it is a cat-print.

For Goth and Punk had always crosses in the style, and I think there wil always be. In Classic I don't personal see a ton af them, more angels and cherubs.
Even with a theme, I think, it can be too much. Yes, Nameless Poem is really pretty dress, but nun-ops with crosses and big veils are better on the catwalk and pictures than to stroll down on the street.

RE: Pastel Goth

[tiferet]

See this is the thing that gets me. I've been an AP brand-ho for as long as I've been wearing brand and I'm just not used to all these crosses on AP.

Moi-meme-Moitie, yes. There's a reason I don't own anything from them, although I do covet that shirred blue rose OP I've seen around--most of their stuff is covered in crosses.

But it's really weird to see all the sweet brands doing them now. I guess it must be because of spillover between fairy-kei and especially cult party kei and sweet, but...eurgh.

[rainedragon]

You know how some people in the US are just like SO IN LOVE with Japan/anime? To the point where they sometimes do things that are awkward?

Lolita is in love with Europe like that.

And European history (and Art) is rife with Christian imagery.

"stick a cross on it" is like "stick the British flag on it". Cross = European culture.

That's really all there is to it. We see the awkward things (Mary and her pony?, for example) because we see how it's being done "wrong" compared to the way it would normally be done here.

Just like people who are Japanese see Americans who put chopsticks in their hair and wear kimono folded backwards and tied in the front and see all the problems with those things (This is equal to a dead prostitute with a fork in her hair, btw).

[johorror]

Ah, I see, I see, this perspective makes more sense to me as well. So I'm trying to start seeing it (crosses) as a European motif rather than purely a religious one. (Also what was that about a dead prostitute with a fork in her hair? I don't get it.)

[katsda52]

Prostitutes kept their kimono tied in the front for it to be easier to take their clothes off. A kimono has to be tied with the left flap over the right flap because the opposite is used for the dead. And finally, chopsticks are eating utensils so sticking them in your hair is like sticking forks and a butter knife in there and thinking it's normal.

[johorror]

Ah okay, I see, everything's backwards, thanks.

[lafarat]

+ 1

I get a little annoyed at people wearing rosaries. They aren't meant to be used as a necklace, or as a belt accessory (!-!!!! This was a fad in my high school for the boys, and it drove me NUTS); they're a prayer tool. Crosses on clothing? Nah. That's a symbol. That's no different than slapping the American flag on bandanas or boxer shorts.

It's all down to interpretation, though.

[johorror]

Hm okay, I kind of get it then. Because Christianty is known by the cross symbol I always thought it was a sacred image, but really it's just a symbol, that has had and continues to have many other uses and meanings, I think is what you're saying. I think you're probably right that crucifixes and rosaries definitely carry more (religious) meaning.

[johorror]

I definietly think AP is just slapping things together at this point. I feel like because this cross thing is like a fad right now, they think they can get away with anything as long as there are crosses on it (as long as people will buy them) and they are. I think it's kind of akin to carousel prints; they are popular and they will keep making them as long as people keep buying them up.