Dear lolita brands, stop putting crosses on everything!

Mar 01, 2016 04:36

I never see anyone talking about this (I've seen it like once a loong time ago), so I'm wondering if anyone else is just as annoyed, for lack of a better word, as I am about lolita brands putting crosses on everything now? I understand it for like gothic brands/themes because they take from gothic architecture like elaborate cathedrals and stuff, ( Read more... )

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johorror March 3 2016, 23:50:50 UTC
Um, do you mean Catholic country as in the United States? If so, I suppose I haven't experienced what you have. I've only ever seen people wear crosses as a symbol of their religion until fairly recently, making it seem t me to be a fad. Also I haven't seen any country complain about using crosses as a fashion statement. This is me, a singular person complaining about it.

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johorror March 5 2016, 22:46:26 UTC
Ah okay, then I understand what you're saying.

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princesskitten9 March 2 2016, 14:00:26 UTC
The cross is a pre-Christian symbol, so there is no need for Christians to be offended. :)

I love crosses and think they can look lovely in sweet prints!

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johorror March 3 2016, 23:55:22 UTC
Since reading this comment, thanks for it first of all, I've researched a bit about this cross and it's origins. I was ignorant of it's pre-Christian and other non-religious uses as a symbol. They can definitely look lovely in sweet prints, it's just that until now I have not understood why they'd be there at all (because I thought it was only used as a symbol of Christanity).

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nyannfairy March 2 2016, 19:18:34 UTC
I'm really glad you posted this :) I actually recently (a couple of weeks ago) was scouring the internet, trying to decide my personal moral stance on the subject. I was raised on a heavily Christian background, but I definitely don't want to be associated with the religion myself.

After a lot of thinking, I went on a Christian message board where someone else had posted the question. Most of the replies were, "I hope by wearing this symbol, it can subconsciously help them to become a 'better' person".

A second way to look at it: Even if you yourself are a Christian, it is part of the history of Europe, which is the aesthetic that Lolita was originally created to emulate (historical western dress with a kawaii twist). In this case, perhaps you are not wearing it as a religious symbol, rather a historical one.

I still feel a bit uncomfortable wearing a cross, but perhaps this insight will help ease your mind :)

In the end, wear what you're comfortable with!!

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johorror March 4 2016, 00:12:25 UTC
Thank you and I'm really glad you posted this too because:

"...it is part of the history of Europe, which is the aesthetic that Lolita was originally created to emulate (historical western dress with a kawaii twist). In this case, perhaps you are not wearing it as a religious symbol, rather a historical one."

That actually has eased my mind a lot about the whole thing and it makes so much more sense than anything I've thought of so far. It really makes much more sense to me now. So I do still think loli brands are doing it because of the fad now, BUT also because of what you said about it being used more in a historical sense rather than strictly a religious one. Really, thanks a lot, looking at it that way does help. :)

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sora_nii March 3 2016, 20:25:52 UTC
This actually one reason why I left Gothic.

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johorror March 4 2016, 00:17:14 UTC
What did it for you? Was it the crosses being everywhere and that was annoying? Do you not like to wear religious symbols, a combination, or some other reason(s)?

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sora_nii March 4 2016, 21:42:46 UTC
A combination. There were no prints without them left that I liked. I don't care if it's more than a christian symbol, I'm an atheist, I have a serious problem with religions and I don't want them on my body.

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jessiekaterose March 3 2016, 21:00:12 UTC
I would personally avoid buying and wearing clothing that has crosses on it because I don't feel any attachment to them and I don't feel like explaining them to anyone. That being said, it doesn't bother me that brands are putting them on things. Unless maybe there was something I otherwise really liked and wanted to buy and had the money to buy and the cross ruined it for me, I don't see how it affects me.

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johorror March 4 2016, 00:21:37 UTC
Yeah, one of the reasons it bugs me so much is that brands will put crosses on a print just because and it would ruin an otherwise great print for me. My views on the whole phenomenon are getting a bit relaxed though.

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