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Reaction Post: "The Long Game"

Dec 31, 2007 20:09

As usual, I'm a bit behind. I'm SORRY! I'm planning on watching "Father's Day" tomorrow, though. Really this time!

( I think one of the problems I had with watching 'The Long Game' is that I don't really like 'The Long Game' very much. )

1x07 the long game

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a_white_rain January 1 2008, 01:49:05 UTC

WHY ARE THE DOCTOR AND ROSE SO CUTE.

goldy_dollar January 1 2008, 02:41:04 UTC

I KNOW! THE CUTE ALWAYS COMPELS ME TO DO THINGS!

a_white_rain January 1 2008, 02:50:41 UTC

I CAN'T GET OVER THE FACT THAT THE DOCTOR, IN ALL HE'S SEEN AND DONE, THINKS ROSE IS SO DAMN AMAZING.

mrv3000 January 1 2008, 02:05:27 UTC

He really does think Rose is the most amazing thing ever, which is so adorable! He's 900-years-old and Rose is the most fascinating thing in the world. *SQUISHES THE CUTE*

Hee! Very cute. :D

I *love* that excited smile that they share. It seems like Ten and Rose get criticized all the time for having too much fun in the face of danger, but it’s not like Nine and Rose approached danger with all the seriousness of attending a funeral.

Great observation. Yeah, Ten and Rose tend to get skewered for it a lot, but it's not like it was invented in S2. (Of course, personally I loved that aspect to them - that they were having the time of their lives while on a lot of adventures.)

And I do love that Rose enjoys the thrill of adventure in the same way the Doctor does. It puts them on a more even keel. It’s not just about the Doctor showing Rose all of time and space. It’s also about how much fun they have together living that life.

I love that as well. It really does take a certain personality to actually love that life.

I even bet if ( ... )

goldy_dollar January 1 2008, 02:48:46 UTC

Yeah, Ten and Rose tend to get skewered for it a lot, but it's not like it was invented in S2.

Sure, Nine wasn't bouncing, but there are MORE than a few examples of them grabbing each other's hands and skipping off into danger.

(Of course, personally I loved that aspect to them - that they were having the time of their lives while on a lot of adventures.)

Me, too!

I love that as well. It really does take a certain personality to actually love that life.

Yeah, and I think that's one of those things that made Rose just so GOOD for the Doctor. I think it's the same sort of thing that had him attracted him to Astrid. That sense of being in it for the adventure. I'm pretty sure if it was me, I'd be quietly freaking out all the time. :D

I still say he needs a posted list of rules and information on the back of the TARDIS door. It would save SO much time. Everything from that little regeneration thing to how to load the TARDIS dishwasher!Buhahahahaha! You're very right. And now I think we should write a fic where Rose writes this ( ... )

nina_ds January 1 2008, 02:41:44 UTC

Okay, might just be me, but I never understood why there were a bunch of skeletons randomly lying around in floor 500. First of all, what? Second of all, isn’t that a bit conspicuous?

-I probably shouldn’t be trying to make sense of a plot that is, at its heart, about a CGI alien that lives in the ceiling, should I?

Disengaging the safety defeats the Jagrafess? Okay.

Sometimes RTD's weaknesses as a writer just stick out like a sore thumb, don't they? He's generally good at the small stuff, but anything large just collapses like a house of cards. I'm beginning to think that The Second Coming and (on the whole) S1 of DW were flukes. Or he had longer to work on them. This was a last-minute script, and it shows. It relies entirely on charm. Ugh. And then there's Adam.

-The Doctor looks appropriately freaked out when he sees the alien on the ceiling. Boy, am I impressed with CE’s acting.

I think he's the CGI artist's greatest asset.

I *love* that excited smile that they share. It seems like Ten and Rose get criticized all the time ( ... )

goldy_dollar January 1 2008, 21:41:54 UTC

Sometimes RTD's weaknesses as a writer just stick out like a sore thumb, don't they? He's generally good at the small stuff, but anything large just collapses like a house of cards. I'm beginning to think that The Second Coming and (on the whole) S1 of DW were flukes. Or he had longer to work on them. This was a last-minute script, and it shows. It relies entirely on charm.

To be fair to him, he did write most of S1, didn't he? I admire him a lot overall because he *does* write incredibly well-crafted characters with real arcs that stay true to their journeys instead of just following a trite cliche. He's also written a lot of my favourite episodes. Sometimes I think the larger pictures gets away from him a bit - like "The Long Game," "Gridlock," and "The Last of the Time Lords." But I'm not sure anyone else would have been able to write "Doomsday" with the amount of emotion RTD packed into it. And I think you *do* get used to hand-waving away a LOT of things when you're a DW fan. :D

Here, they just know something's up, not what it ( ... )

nina_ds January 3 2008, 01:44:34 UTC

AndTo be fair to him, he did write most of S1, didn't he?

Yep. That's why I included that in the ones that (on the whole) do work ;-) I do recognize, however, that he's much stronger at character work than he is at structure - AoL/WWIII is a great example. I think people forget how great those episodes are in character development because of the Slitheen (who aren't as bad as the director made them, I think). And I think he did some stellar work in Love & Monsters...and then there was that one joke that just pretty much ruined the whole thing for a lot of people (still, I think Jackie's "left behind" speech is the best scene in the entirety of S2. I give him credit for thinking big; but he's messy.

t's interesting how different people see things, isn't it?

Certainly. I know you love Ten/Rose and are squicked by Nine/Rose - I have exactly the opposite reaction. I do find them too much, and kind of desperate.

the Doctor *always* takes off, doesn't he? He never sticks around, not after the Slitheen attacked the Earth, not after the ( ... )

tardis_stowaway January 4 2008, 04:55:11 UTC

He’s a bit… selfish, yeah, but he’s not evil. I really don’t think he meant to hurt anyone. I even bet if the Doctor had bothered to sit him down for five minutes to explain the rules of time travel, he never would’ve tried to seek out a profit like he did.In general I agree. Adam is not malicious, and I think he honestly didn't understand that what he was doing could cause serious problems. The initial "OMG I'm in SPACE!" freak-out doesn't necessarily mean that he sucks for good: witness Mickey's behavior in Rose compared to what he later became. Adam eventually starts to get bolder and exhibit a bit of that adaptability that is critical to traveling with the Doctor. On the other hand, I think he remains an example of "Companion: YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG." His concerns always revolve around himself. Had he received a proper orientation he might not have tried to make a profit like this, but he would have eventually tried something else equally selfish if marginally less boneheaded ( ... )