For me the "He was a virgin before Victoria came to town"-oint of view is really tempting, but not very likely.
Why is it tempting: Because it is one more characteristic of Ben's "I'm not like other men"-attitude, we all love so much. Being thirtysomething, gorgeous and the dream of so many women - and still he his waiting for the one. I guess the romantic little girl inside me likes this thought.
Why is it unlikely? After All: Fraser is a human being, he is no saint (although he very often seems to be...). And (most important): he is a *man*. I am absolutely sure: when he was a teenager and his hormons were running high, there was a girl who finally got him.
Why is it tempting: Because it is one more characteristic of Ben's "I'm not like other men"-attitude, we all love so much.
I agree it is temtping. I actually can go either way with this.
I am absolutely sure: when he was a teenager and his hormons were running high, there was a girl who finally got him.
Agian I agree. I think as long as he loved the girl, I can't see him into the casual sex thing even with hormones becuase he does have that moral centre.
Victoria may be the only woman he ever loved but that doesn't mean she's the only woman he ever had sex with.
I agree but I think he would have to really care about a owmen to have sex with her becuase of that strong moral code he has and the whole chivalry thing. He wouldn't kiss and tell which is probaly why we don't know.
I think it's highly likely he wasn't involved with anyone else during the time she was in prison, however.
Yes I would agree.
I don't think he was promiscuous. He strikes me as the type of person who would have to have deep feelings (not necessarily love) for someone.
Yes I think neither he nor Ray is into casual sex. Fraser is a moral man and one night stands wouldn't be his style. But yes I think he takes care of things so to speak.
Ah, Steve. I never read too much into the mention of the name, no more so than Fraser being confused about his and Ray's identities in his concussed state.I like the idea it's a nod to the actor. And yes it is a biot of a throwaway line. But there are many slash stories about
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Your properly verification of Fraser's virginity is helpful for me who is confused sometimes about his personality （ or about where his love exist ） from a lot of others viewpoint to ponder him. When I try to explain his charm, it’s easer than to explain Ray’s ( though I love Ray very much ) but on the one hand Fraser is invisible more than Ray from some aspects for me. I strayed a bit from the Fraser’s virginity. But as I have an experience that I failed to explain how Benny reward Ray's devotion ( though I believe Ray get enough invisible reward from Benny) I look forward to that this Fraser's month will give some me nice guidance about Benny.
As I see most of us are thinking that Fraser wasn't a virgin before Victoria's Secret. But this "Steve-discussion" leads to another question: Was there a man in his life (before he met Vecchio, of course *g*). I know that Fraser seems to be very uptight when it comes to sex, but he is not narrow minded at all, so maybe he has made such an experience. Not necessarily with Steve, of course. I'd like to know how you think about this.
I know that Fraser seems to be very uptight when it comes to sex, but he is not narrow minded at all, so maybe he has made such an experience. Not necessarily with Steve, of course. I'd like to know how you think about this.
I know that Fraser tends to be written as more open to other sexual experiences becuase he wasn't raised ina traditional, western enviroment. He grew up inthe far North where things like that might not be treated in the same way.
Also the RCMP is a very male dominated organistion. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him actially having a relationship with another man befire Victoria. Some have even said he fell in love with Victoria becuase he had had a previous relationship with a man that eneded badly. It's all speculation but it's fun to speculate ;-)
I know that Fraser tends to be written as more open to other sexual experiences becuase he wasn't raised ina traditional, western enviroment. He grew up inthe far North where things like that might not be treated in the same way.
Yeah, that view is nearly fanon, isn't it?
Some have even said he fell in love with Victoria becuase he had had a previous relationship with a man that eneded badly.
hm, I don't think this is very likely... but if this is true, than we had further evidence that there is more than friendship between Fraser and Vecchio or Fraser and Kowalski (I am not fixed to one shipping, so...): Now he had a relationship with a woman which ended (very, very) badly, so now it's time for him to sway towards men again...
Please, don't take it all too seriously, what I wrote above, just a bit of "What if"-speculation.
Just one more thing against Fraser's virginity. When he spend this night in his appartment, we see them kissing and falling onto the bed, right? Well, he doesn't look the slightest bit insecure to me at that point. I mean, come on, if he hadn't any experience with women before, he would have ben much more clumsy, tentative, awkward... like a teenage boy! (believe me, I now what I am talking about *scowl*)
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Why is it tempting: Because it is one more characteristic of Ben's "I'm not like other men"-attitude, we all love so much. Being thirtysomething, gorgeous and the dream of so many women - and still he his waiting for the one. I guess the romantic little girl inside me likes this thought.
Why is it unlikely? After All: Fraser is a human being, he is no saint (although he very often seems to be...). And (most important): he is a *man*. I am absolutely sure: when he was a teenager and his hormons were running high, there was a girl who finally got him.
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I agree it is temtping. I actually can go either way with this.
I am absolutely sure: when he was a teenager and his hormons were running high, there was a girl who finally got him.
Agian I agree. I think as long as he loved the girl, I can't see him into the casual sex thing even with hormones becuase he does have that moral centre.
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I agree but I think he would have to really care about a owmen to have sex with her becuase of that strong moral code he has and the whole chivalry thing. He wouldn't kiss and tell which is probaly why we don't know.
I think it's highly likely he wasn't involved with anyone else during the time she was in prison, however.
Yes I would agree.
I don't think he was promiscuous. He strikes me as the type of person who would have to have deep feelings (not necessarily love) for someone.
Yes I think neither he nor Ray is into casual sex. Fraser is a moral man and one night stands wouldn't be his style. But yes I think he takes care of things so to speak.
Ah, Steve. I never read too much into the mention of the name, no more so than Fraser being confused about his and Ray's identities in his concussed state.I like the idea it's a nod to the actor. And yes it is a biot of a throwaway line. But there are many slash stories about ( ... )
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When I try to explain his charm, it’s easer than to explain Ray’s ( though I love Ray very much ) but on the one hand Fraser is invisible more than Ray from some aspects for me.
I strayed a bit from the Fraser’s virginity. But as I have an experience that I failed to explain how Benny reward Ray's devotion ( though I believe Ray get enough invisible reward from Benny) I look forward to that this Fraser's month will give some me nice guidance about Benny.
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He can be very confusing as a person.
Fraser is invisible more than Ray from some aspects for me.
Yes he is a harder person to understand than Ray is some ways becuase he is not as open about his feelings it seems.
I look forward to that this Fraser's month will give some me nice guidance about Benny.
I hope it does. Any wuestions you want to ask, please do so.
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I know that Fraser tends to be written as more open to other sexual experiences becuase he wasn't raised ina traditional, western enviroment. He grew up inthe far North where things like that might not be treated in the same way.
Also the RCMP is a very male dominated organistion. I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him actially having a relationship with another man befire Victoria. Some have even said he fell in love with Victoria becuase he had had a previous relationship with a man that eneded badly. It's all speculation but it's fun to speculate ;-)
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Yeah, that view is nearly fanon, isn't it?
Some have even said he fell in love with Victoria becuase he had had a previous relationship with a man that eneded badly.
hm, I don't think this is very likely... but if this is true, than we had further evidence that there is more than friendship between Fraser and Vecchio or Fraser and Kowalski (I am not fixed to one shipping, so...): Now he had a relationship with a woman which ended (very, very) badly, so now it's time for him to sway towards men again...
Please, don't take it all too seriously, what I wrote above, just a bit of "What if"-speculation.
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