Feminism/Sexism Rant, Ahoy

[dramaturgca]

So, I finished my MA essay draft about five minutes ago. It is therefore a perfect time for me to write some more! ... ... Oh my life.

Anyway, this is fun in my brain writing, not academic writing and that makes all the difference in the world.

Important piece of info so I only sound slightly crazy, not psychologically disturbed: I RP Kara "

Comments

[ladybretagne]

We all ready talked about the "this is such a totally impractical outfit" part, but the idea that this is taking place in the mind of a girl in the 1950s is interesting. I could almost see the point, almost, if it were going to be used as some sort of commentary on the way gender is socialized in women and how becoming a fantasy for men can become the fantasy of a woman. Except ya know, I'm pretty well certain that that's NOT going to happen. Would love to be proved wrong on that one, but I'm not holding my breath.

[havenward]

It has no pockets. Where are you supposed to keep your pencil and notebook and cigars and lighter and gum and first aid kit and stuff?:cracks up, as that has Kara written all over it

[dramaturgca]

It's the fact that the dominant perspective is SO dominant. You'd never see a guy fantasy that involved being that scantily clad.

(I'm bi, too. I have no problem with scantily clad women, in the right situations. I'm tired of being inundated with it)

[havenward]

You'd never see a guy fantasy that involved being that scantily clad.

Actually he'd done an awful lot of that with 300...

[dramaturgca]

Fair enough, but, again, that's one movie.

[dogwoodblossom]

That sounds like a really interesting premise that I expect will not be even remotely well executed. Which makes me sad. Also, the plot synopsis coupled with that outfit sounds kinda homoerotic, and along with the 300 connection, even more so.

But I am confused because 300 was all about oily naked white guys wrestling, hugging, and fighting evil minorities.

I'm not sure how a movie about lesbian fetish pilots comes from that same mindset. Unless we're seeing the forefront of a wave of mainstream adolescent fantasy movies with a truckload of homosexual-way more than- subtext. Which sounds delightfully subversive actually, although I'm sure it's not supposed to be. I'm just waiting for the next Matrix Reloaded Orgy sequence with a blatant guy/guy/girl threesome.

...Sorry I got lost there for a minute. Something about feminism?

[dramaturgca]

It's not, I don't think, about lesbian fetish pilots. It's about teenage girls escaping lobotomies in the 50s using the powers of their imaginations. Or something. It's Zach Snyder, it doesn't make sense.

[dogwoodblossom]

Well clearly they are imagining that they are fetish pilots, and it's all female leads.... Without a big greasy white guy there aren't a lot of places that can go.

[dogwoodblossom]

I mean, unless they made it thoughtful and interesting and decided for some reason not to play up the blatant sex appeal that is represented by that outfit. But how likely is that?

[dybji]

I'm just taken aback by how much that poster design looks like something from Umega or TCA - well, except for the distressingly crude and somewhat inappropriate design of that poor lady's pants. The combination of the design style and the costuming is just proving very unfortunate for me. D: D: D:

But also by how much she looks like Wataru. Which means, well, the pants are still please never kthnx, but from the, er, well, from the collarbones up, *thumbs up* Well done, poster designers!

Re: the difference between third-wave freedom and objectification, I'm with you on this one. It's a question of agency, to me? And when her costume is clearly being used as a marketing ploy instead of a facet of the character, it's clear where the gaze is and it's not leaving the agency with the character?

[viridian]

Oh, comics.

I'm always torn, because I personally love ridiculously impractical outfits in certain contexts. I enjoy the hell out of wearing such impractical clothes when I fit into them. (Which has been a while, but still.) I know you don't object to the clothes themselves, but a part of me would be very sad if crazy costumes ever went away entirely.

At the same time, I remain as baffled as you by the whole "authentic" "pilot" synopsis. Authentic to the comic, maybe, but what the hell? I... think from the name it's meant to be campy and kind of deliberately awful, perhaps. And I do wish that clothing women in this way in fiction didn't automatically signal objectification. I feel like there are probably examples where it doesn't, on an individual level, but the collective effect is the same.

Oh, comics.

[dramaturgca]

Except, it's not actually from a comic. It's from Zach Snyder's personal fetishes.