I usually don't do politics..

Mar 23, 2010 14:37

As a friend of mine posted in FB:

"When there's a bill that ends up on my desk as President, you the public will have five days to look online, to find out what's in it, before I sign it." Obama speech September 22, 2008. In what fuzzy math does less than 48 hrs equal 5 days? Oh yeah, the same fuzzy math that says this bill will reduce the deficit ( Read more... )

politics, wtf, bullshit

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jfargo March 23 2010, 18:39:10 UTC
you know who to blame.

Everyone?

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dr_nebula March 23 2010, 18:41:18 UTC
Yep. Congress in particular.

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My 2 cents... popfiend March 23 2010, 19:04:22 UTC
...which won't be popular from anyone who opposes this bill, but ( ... )

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mr_spock March 23 2010, 18:52:26 UTC
I find it ironic the the N-th degree that the Republicans are now crying about this being un-Constitutional. When did that ever stop them?

However, they are right. But, I think that, if the "up to 80%" figures are even close to right, then in November there will be a lot of House and Senate seats changing hands. Everyone who voted for this bill was voting against their career, if the bill is as unpopular as those numbers would seem to say. Time will tell.

I just hope that if there is a huge turnover, that the Libertarians get at least 50% of those seats.

What really amazes me about this bill is all the back-room deals that Obama had to make to get it. Considering how many promises he's already broken, what made those Democrats think he wouldn't hang them out to dry after he got what he wanted here?

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dr_nebula March 23 2010, 19:04:37 UTC
Yeah, if this turns out to be as unpopular as polls seem to indicate - Congress could look radically different after November.

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ronin_kakuhito March 23 2010, 19:55:55 UTC
mr_spock March 23 2010, 21:21:59 UTC
I'm not sure Gallup is reporting accurately, any more than the reports that say 80% opposed to it. I think the reality is somewhere in between, which could still spell big trouble for the Democrats in November.

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unixronin March 23 2010, 19:08:18 UTC
"I don't hear no fat lady." 11 state AGs have constitutionality challenges ready to go, citing everything from unfunded mandates to unlawful taking, and 33 states at last count (including New Hampshire) have filed or pre-filed legislation that would block implementation.

It's a "victory" for the Dems in shoving their statist agenda down America's throat whether America wants it or not. I suspect they may be laughing on the other sides of their faces in November, but the sad part of that is it'll probably mean we get the Republicans again, unless the Tea Party folks can get a whole lot of viable candidates fielded by November.

And speaking of no fat ladies ... http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/03/senate-gop-introduces-bill-to-repeal-new-health-care-law/1

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rinna_28 March 23 2010, 23:14:00 UTC
As far as the "unfunded mandate" thing goes, any attorneys general who may try to use it as justification for a lawsuit won't have a leg to stand on in their cases. No Child Left Behind is full of unfunded mandates.

Concerning the health care reform in general, I'm taking a wait and see attitude.

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mr_spock March 23 2010, 21:27:11 UTC
I tend to agree that the 80% figure is inflated, just like I said above that I think the 50% reported by Gallup is underestimated. Based on 33 of 50 states filing legislation to block this in their states, I'd estimate that the real figure of popular upset is around 65% of the nation.

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nishar March 24 2010, 00:47:53 UTC
I think this will end up being a Pyrrhic victory for the Democrates. The public needs to be won over and quickly or the Republicans may regain the house and even the senate. Then they would quickly kill Obama-Care. Obama is a good campaigner and he needs to turn on the charm or he is gonna go down as a one term president.

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mr_spock March 24 2010, 06:29:43 UTC
The real problem is he's not reading the people right. He keeps making the same mistake - thinking that we just don't understand what he's trying to do. The problem is, the more we understand, the less some of us like it.

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