8th Wolf: [Voice]

May 03, 2010 23:38

Luceti. A question, to any inclined to answer ( Read more... )

important questions are important, defining justice, he would be an awesome judge

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justicereigns May 4 2010, 06:09:16 UTC
Hn. I'd help but it certainly wouldn't work the same way here. In my world the entire world has a presiding World Government and the marines are used to capture pirates.

Even if half of is duplicable it'd need to be different here. More civilian run.

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doomhammered May 4 2010, 06:12:57 UTC
Capturing lawbreakers is less of an issue then figuring out what to do with them, at this point. There are... at least four groups out there devoted to keeping the peace, but no one making the decisions as to how the criminals are treated after being caught.

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justicereigns May 4 2010, 06:21:12 UTC
Right. I'd rather not try to invent another Impel Down here. But I'm guessing the reason we don't even have jails is that it wouldn't work to keep them as the Malnosso could just break them out to do more experiments. And it's not as though anyone controls the Malnosso in order to make them put the experiments only on criminals.

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doomhammered May 4 2010, 06:25:25 UTC
That would be the greatest problem. However, the Malnosso do not usually return their subjects in the best of shape when they're done with them, so recapture to continue their sentence isn't at all out of the question.

Of course, determining that sentence is still an issue with no laws to guide the decision.

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[Voice] cravat_hater May 4 2010, 06:14:19 UTC
My job was to arrest the criminals, and I did my job well. After that they went to the court to be found guilty and get the sentence they deserve.

If this place gets some laws, I'd welcome doing my job again. A member of the house of Lang should not remain idle.

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[Voice] doomhammered May 4 2010, 06:17:06 UTC
The problem is laying the laws down, it would seem. There are many people devoted to catching the threats to the populace, but few if any ideas as to what to do with them after they're captured.

The term "Court of Law" has been brought up.

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[Voice] cravat_hater May 4 2010, 06:23:19 UTC
The courts are the next step in the process. The criminal and his defense attorney present their case to the judge and the law has a prosecutor speak for their side and present evidence and witnesses. The judge decides the case based on the evidence and witness testimony.

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[Voice] doomhammered May 4 2010, 06:26:38 UTC
The one calling himself Batman mentioned something similar. Do you think something like that could be implemented here? What qualifications would be required to take the post of defense attorney, prosecutor, and judge?

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inabook May 4 2010, 07:53:31 UTC
doomhammered May 5 2010, 02:29:43 UTC
That sounds very similar to the system used by humans on my own world. Though I'm familiar with such a method and would be able to work with it, I don't think it would work very well here in Luceti.

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[Voice] derek_bliss May 4 2010, 11:48:14 UTC
We have a judicial system. The simple explanation goes like this: Capture of supposed criminal. Put criminal to a trial to prove guilt or innocence. Let a group of randomly selected citizens decide on a verdict after they listened to the evidence from both sides. Apply verdict and corresponding penalties, if any, to the criminal.

You'd need a system of law first, although I see that's already been brought up.

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[Voice] doomhammered May 5 2010, 02:31:06 UTC
You're actually the third to bring up this method, and it's sounding more and more appealing. If enough people are interested in it, we can attempt to draft a code of laws and try to get it approved by the populace.

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[Voice] derek_bliss May 5 2010, 21:26:34 UTC
It would be a good idea. Hopefully enough people will buy into it to be willing.

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[Voice] doomhammered May 6 2010, 01:59:07 UTC
People seem split on that particular issue. Some seem eager to have one, others dislike the idea, and still others would like to have some laws laid down but question how to properly develop them for our situation.

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doomhammered May 5 2010, 02:31:28 UTC
If that's what you believe, we have nothing to discuss.

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doomhammered May 5 2010, 02:59:56 UTC
The "escaping with ease" part of your argument is a fallacy. Unless the Malnosso intervene, which usually doesn't bode well for the subject of their interest anyway, it is extremely difficult to escape from the cells which have been formed in the tunnels, due to the ability-dampening effects. It is true that capital punishment would be rendered largely ineffective, even factoring in the Penalties, but I prefer to avoid that method outside of wartime anyway.

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