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The debate: Dwarves!

Jan 13, 2007 02:03

Many of us love Tolkien's Dwarves, but it is becoming obvious that the Dwarves seem to be the least favorite race for sorting_realm overall. Why do you all think this is?

Is it because many people have only seen the movies and haven't read The Silmarillion or, perhaps more importantly in this respect, The Hobbit? Is it because people don't look past the ( Read more... )

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robotology January 13 2007, 08:20:11 UTC

I always thought that it was odd that Dwarves seemed to get so little love.
Next to Hobbits, of course, Dwarves are my favourite of the Races. They are, to me, not like any of the other races. They have an amazing history, they have a history before the elves even came forth. They are strong, independent, proud, loyal and wise beings. Last time I checked those are pretty respectable attributes. They made a majority of the weapons that carved the history of middle earth. If it is appearance that turns people off from dwarves, well thats just foolish. Beards are awesome, silly silly people(coughelvescough). ;)

_grayswandir_ January 13 2007, 15:23:26 UTC

Beards are awesome

Hear hear! And why is it nobody seems to hold Gandalf's beard against him? He certainly isn't about to win any Middle-earth Sexiest Man of the Year awards. :P

kossatik January 13 2007, 14:25:27 UTC

hm, I think it's because they are not romantic as elves are, and so cosiness-loving as hobbits. And they are more familiar with stone, than elves (loving nature, speaking thees etc.) or hobbits (living in villages). their destiny is the Middlearth is strange - they were not created by Eru. they seem to differ from men more, than elves or hobbits.

p.s. I can't say I dislike them - just I'm not familiar with them...

theguiltyone January 13 2007, 15:10:21 UTC

Physical appearance has a LOT to do with it. You can have cute Hobbits, pretty Elves, handsome men....and short, hairy dwarves. Not much can be changed about that to make them very drool worthy. Unless you dig short hairy men to begin with.

_grayswandir_ January 13 2007, 15:20:24 UTC

It's funny -- If you compare the Races of Middle-earth to the Houses at Hogwart's, then clearly the Hobbits are Hufflepuffs, simple and honest and steadfast; the Elves are Ravenclaws, wise and distant and self-sufficient; the Men are Slytherins*, proud and clever and power-seeking; and the Dwarves are Gryffindors, strong-willed and loyal and brave. In HP fandom, everybody wants to be a Gryffindor. But here -- nobody wants to be a Dwarf ( ... )

shannon_zhang January 13 2007, 16:34:07 UTC

Well, there are evil Elves (Feanor), evil hobbits (Sandyman) and ...well...not neccessarily evil, as we only see them for a paragraph in the Simraillion, greedy Dwarves.

shannon_zhang January 13 2007, 16:36:54 UTC

Silmarillion, I meant. Oops.

_grayswandir_ January 13 2007, 17:59:46 UTC

True, I phrased that badly. Obviously, no race is completely immune to corruption, including Wizards. Even Smeagol could be considered a sort of "evil hobbit." What I meant was that there are entire populations of Men who have turned to Sauron's side, either out of weakness or ambition, and this hasn't happened to any other race. Individual members may turn, but the people as a whole don't have the same propensity to go bad.

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lariren_shadow January 13 2007, 16:26:15 UTC

I know I put that I didn't want to be a Dwarf, because, well, I don't think I am like one. I think people don't want to be placed with them because they want to be put in the Elves or the Hobbits(...not me...). They don't see much past what Gimli looks like(and possibly the hairy women comments ( ... )