Discussion time~ ♥

Dec 05, 2009 16:11


All right! So, in the light of recent events, I think we need to discuss some theories regarding Allen, Mana, certain fourteenth and, naturally, our beloved Earl. I've got pictures~

Spoilers ahead. BEWARE. )

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defade December 7 2009, 07:17:51 UTC
There were thirteen other Noahs who appeared besides the first disciple

I think there are 13 Noahs including the Earl. Notice how Wisely said that they inherited the memories of the 2nd-13th Noahs.

one of those Noahs (also called the Fourteenth) rebelled against the Earl and used the "Heart" to fight him. Nevertheless, the Earl defeated him and the remaining twelve apostles became the ancestors of modern humanity.

No mention of the 14th being the one that uses the heart.(raw just said "That guy") And he was not defeated - the Earl was. IEatManga's translations for 187 and 188 are full of errors.

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are_late December 10 2009, 22:52:16 UTC
Yes, so it seems. It thought that the 14th being "that guy" was the most logical thing ever. Everyone else seems to disagree, though. XD

Those crops are from Mangafox, where I've also read all DGM chapters. They're also filled with incongruencies. I really do need to learn Japanese. ;;

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discussion ashuratou December 28 2009, 03:59:48 UTC
all i know that Tyki got a feelings to Allen. to see the way he treat Allen so kindly. i wonder when wisely said that Tyki's form are similar to 14th.
Argggg!!!

can't wait the next chapter

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mello_lover December 31 2009, 17:39:27 UTC
late message is late ;_; oh and warning LJ n00b in action

From your discussion with 123antidote, I would have something to add and/or say my thoughts on them.

Fist of all, until now I thought that the 14th and Mana's brother or as I like to make fun of him: XXX Walker 8D were one person, and not entirely different entities ;_;

since why the hell would Mana teach a 7-10 year old child a secret code, and more important HOW did he know that code? Allen said that Mana and him invented this code, but in my opinion Mana was the one pulling the strings and teaching Allen the symbols and not just improvising them on the spot.

Allen may say that he and Mana invented the code together, but he was a child back then and I think we know how easy it is to fool a child into thinking that something was made by him/her especially when they want to impress their parents.

Regarding the incident 35 years ago, from what I understood, Wisely said that Noah received "memory damage" from the 14th. But, what I, or everyone else for that matter, don't know is when ( ... )

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are_late December 31 2009, 23:07:13 UTC
Hello there! Better late than never. 8D And no worries, we're both newbies here ;;

Really? What gave you that impression? Since this, I knew that I had to differentiate the 14th Noah from Mana's little brother. Or rather, XXX Walker. XD A lot of people refer simply to "the 14th", and most of the time I'm not entirely sure if they are talking about Mana's brother or the actual Noah.

About the code... I'm sure that Mana and his brother made up that code. Maybe even when they were kids, who knows? To play and stuff... I used to do that a lot. Anyways! I'm almost positive that the code was something that solely Mana and his brother could understand, because as we read in the Ark arc (my, that sounds strange. XD) the Noahs didn't know about it. When the Earl is playing the musician's song and downloading the old Ark into the black Ark, what's on the background as he plays are the actual notes, not the code Timcampy had Allen to play ( ... )

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