All right! So, in the light of recent events, I think we need to discuss some theories regarding Allen, Mana, certain fourteenth and, naturally, our beloved Earl. I've got pictures~
I seem to remember Rouvilier saying that there he had a person related to the 14/Mana... does anybody else remember that? I want to say that it's the body of Mana's brother but I suck at theories.
Actually I doubt that the Fourteenth was the one who used the Innocence to defeat the Earl.
In Japanese it states that "the maker of the cube (the cube = Innocence, not the Heart) fought the Millennium Earl and defeated him, however the world still got destroyed in the end". I kinda find it hard that a Noah was able to create the thing that destroys them.
What I'm really wondering about is what exactly is the role of Mana in all this (he's definitely got a bigger role than that of Allen's foster parent). As well as Cross's age. And since the Earl's name is "Adam", does that mean there's an "Eve" as well?
Hmm. But doesn't it also say that after the Earl defeated THAT GUY there were only twelve apostles left? Besides the Earl himself, I mean. I need to learn how to read Japanese ASAP.
Yeah, but the 14th actually does want the Earl dead, doesn't he?
Perhaps there have been too many parallels between the Earl and Mana in the latest chapters. It makes me wonder, as well...
An Eve seems like the only logical explanation for repopulating the world, although it would get even more complicated. ;;
I don't remember where I heard/read this but I remember something about the Fourteenth not being a "real" Noah. As in, he's a Noah, but not counted in the family (probably because he betrayed them?). BUT, I'm not sure if this is right or not.
I haven't seen the raw for chapter 189 so I'm not sure if that line about the Fourteenth wanting to become the Earl is right or not.
For some reason I keep thinking that the first Fourteenth was in Mana's brother, but I'm not sure why. In any case, I'd like to know WHY the Fourteenth wants to become the Earl (if that line is correct)...
1) Yeah, Kanda killed Skin Bolic in the ark. They are now looking for Wrath's next host.
2) Good theory! XD But why the hell would a Noah be born 7000 years late?And how exactly are Noahs born? ;; And, if he had been born late and inside Mana's brother, where did his memories come from? And more importantly, why does want to become the Earl and kill all of his familythe Noahs?
That's inconsistent, yes. It says that the Earl "defeated" the guy. Perhaps it was the 14th and the Earl didn't kill him because he was his brother, after all. Then the 14th ran away/escaped plotting his revenge(?) and then he finally came back 7000 years later inside Mana's brother? And he was all "Missed you, dear bro! ♥" when in reality he was just waiting for the precise moment to kill them all off and finally fulfill his wish of becoming the Earl? OMG too much speculation. XD 3)Yeah, I had already seen that. There's something about the Walker brothers and the Noah family. And lately, there's been just too many parallels between Mana/his brother and the
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1.) Well,I don't think that it said anything about the original 14th wanting to kill the Earl,unless I missed something .-., and that Mana's Brother/14th was the first noah to want to kill the earl.And that 'that guy' the Earl references to is compeletly separate from the 14th. 2.)I also think that the 14th has a better reason for wanting to kill the Earl and take over his position(like he wants to stop the prodution on akuma/the was in general...but I also like thinking that 14ths also a good guy, but thats just me..) 3.)Also I don't think that the 14th being nice was fake...although I also like to believe that the Earl and the 14th were banging,so once again,that's just me...Oh,and the one manga translations are awful(even though thats usually the site I go too >>) So the whole 12-13 noah thing is probly a mistranslation,or it could mean 12 without the Earl and the 14th. And I believe that manga has its own time,and with my math I just don't touch that shit,I think it's a good policy.
1. I was quite surprised that almost everybody seems to disagree with that. I thought that it was only logical that it had been the 14th, 7000 thousand years ago, that rebelled against the first disciple (a.k.a. the Earl), because after that there had been only 12 disciples left besides the Earl himself. There are some pretty interesting theories about the 14th Noah being born later or by mistake. ^^
2. I used to think that as well, but now I'm not entirely sure ;; Although it does get more interesting now that there seem to be some sort of ulterior motive behind the 14th's character.
2. Translation errors be damned! Banging? XD I call it brotherly love, myself. But anyways! I guess the manga does have its own time, it's just that I love connecting every little dot Hoshino-sensei leaves hanging in the air. 8D
.1) I like to think that the 14ths a darling little mistake/failure...althought thats not intirely relavent, 1)but regardless i kinda doubt a noah from any time period would be able to use innocence, and it said 'that guy' tried to defeat the earl using the heart, so yeah. 2)And I actually have a logical reason for thinking that the 14th is a good guy, amazingly. Would Cross really side with someone who wants to end the world? If there's no world there's no women for Cross to have sex with o-0 2.2) Little dots hanging in the air bug the shit out of me to no end >< they're why I stopped reading 'girl got game' ;-;
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Really? But then why did the Earl say that after THAT GUY had used the innocence to fight him the remaining 12 had become his aid? He is positively excluding himself from that number. And what about the word he used; "remaining"? Translation error? Again? Orz..
That's true, but they really don't talk much about the 14th, do they? That's kind of taboo to them isn't it? We can't be completely sure until Hoshino-sensei spills the beans.
It seems such a long to me. XD Also! It may be Hoshino's style improving over the years, but I still think that she just decided to throw some muscle into Allen's figure. Not that I'm complaining. :D
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In Japanese it states that "the maker of the cube (the cube = Innocence, not the Heart) fought the Millennium Earl and defeated him, however the world still got destroyed in the end". I kinda find it hard that a Noah was able to create the thing that destroys them.
What I'm really wondering about is what exactly is the role of Mana in all this (he's definitely got a bigger role than that of Allen's foster parent). As well as Cross's age. And since the Earl's name is "Adam", does that mean there's an "Eve" as well?
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Yeah, but the 14th actually does want the Earl dead, doesn't he?
Perhaps there have been too many parallels between the Earl and Mana in the latest chapters. It makes me wonder, as well...
An Eve seems like the only logical explanation for repopulating the world, although it would get even more complicated. ;;
Thanks for the advice. :D
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I haven't seen the raw for chapter 189 so I'm not sure if that line about the Fourteenth wanting to become the Earl is right or not.
For some reason I keep thinking that the first Fourteenth was in Mana's brother, but I'm not sure why. In any case, I'd like to know WHY the Fourteenth wants to become the Earl (if that line is correct)...
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and for the rest, let hoshino sensei explain it for herself?
it's kinda messy to figure out. ahaha.
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2) Good theory! XD But why the hell would a Noah be born 7000 years late?And how exactly are Noahs born? ;; And, if he had been born late and inside Mana's brother, where did his memories come from? And more importantly, why does want to become the Earl and kill all of his familythe Noahs?
That's inconsistent, yes. It says that the Earl "defeated" the guy. Perhaps it was the 14th and the Earl didn't kill him because he was his brother, after all. Then the 14th ran away/escaped plotting his revenge(?) and then he finally came back 7000 years later inside Mana's brother? And he was all "Missed you, dear bro! ♥" when in reality he was just waiting for the precise moment to kill them all off and finally fulfill his wish of becoming the Earl? OMG too much speculation. XD 3)Yeah, I had already seen that. There's something about the Walker brothers and the Noah family. And lately, there's been just too many parallels between Mana/his brother and the ( ... )
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2.)I also think that the 14th has a better reason for wanting to kill the Earl and take over his position(like he wants to stop the prodution on akuma/the was in general...but I also like thinking that 14ths also a good guy, but thats just me..)
3.)Also I don't think that the 14th being nice was fake...although I also like to believe that the Earl and the 14th were banging,so once again,that's just me...Oh,and the one manga translations are awful(even though thats usually the site I go too >>) So the whole 12-13 noah thing is probly a mistranslation,or it could mean 12 without the Earl and the 14th. And I believe that manga has its own time,and with my math I just don't touch that shit,I think it's a good policy.
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2. I used to think that as well, but now I'm not entirely sure ;; Although it does get more interesting now that there seem to be some sort of ulterior motive behind the 14th's character.
2. Translation errors be damned! Banging? XD I call it brotherly love, myself. But anyways! I guess the manga does have its own time, it's just that I love connecting every little dot Hoshino-sensei leaves hanging in the air. 8D
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1)but regardless i kinda doubt a noah from any time period would be able to use innocence, and it said 'that guy' tried to defeat the earl using the heart, so yeah.
2)And I actually have a logical reason for thinking that the 14th is a good guy, amazingly. Would Cross really side with someone who wants to end the world? If there's no world there's no women for Cross to have sex with o-0
2.2) Little dots hanging in the air bug the shit out of me to no end >< they're why I stopped reading 'girl got game' ;-;
The Real Reason For my Reply) You're the first person to respond to my darling little crack pairing and ily for it xD
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That's true, but they really don't talk much about the 14th, do they? That's kind of taboo to them isn't it? We can't be completely sure until Hoshino-sensei spills the beans.
It seems such a long to me. XD Also! It may be Hoshino's style improving over the years, but I still think that she just decided to throw some muscle into Allen's figure. Not that I'm complaining. :D
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