So, Hillary v Trump, huh?

Jun 07, 2016 08:52

Don't get me wrong, I like Bernie Sanders and I freely acknowledge he's more liberal than Hillary. An ideal world, I'd love a female candidate as liberal as he is. But I think Hillary has a better shot of winning, probably because she's not quite as liberal. And dammit, Trump cannot win. I'm hoping I have no Trump supporters on my flist - and if I ( Read more... )

politics: america, politics: britain

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trepkos June 7 2016, 07:59:35 UTC
Agreed. But I really didn't like H.Clinton's reaction to Gaddafi's death. Inexcusable. Especially given the West's financial stake in that matter.

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spikesjojo June 7 2016, 08:00:59 UTC
I am passionate about Bernie, and pissed off that the DNC is doing everything it can to rein him in. But I will vote for Hilary since she will be the candidate. If Hilary will move to the left and extend her hand, she can get the Bernie supporters. But she has to do that because these are the really passionate voters and she will need them. More than that - these are the people whose ideas resonate - and we need them. For too long it has been the same old BS.

Trump is a nightmare scenario so I will vote for Hilary this time - she has some positive qualities but she is also part of the machine. She has to show me that the machine can evolve.

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denorios June 7 2016, 08:17:04 UTC
To be honest, if Bernie supporters don't vote for Hillary, it's inexcusable for liberals, regardless of their feelings for her personally. She may not be left-wing enough for them, but they HAVE to vote for her. Because the alternative is Trump. Even not voting is inexcusable, when the alternative is a man like Trump.

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sherrilina June 7 2016, 11:11:17 UTC
This, exactly! The Bernie voters who say they would vote for Trump over Hillary (yes, they exist) just demonstrate that they were never actual progressives in the first place!

The false equivalency between Hillary and Trump that I keep seeing drives me nuts, it's such BS and completely delusional.

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author_by_night June 7 2016, 12:17:17 UTC
Yeah, I think Bernie people who say they're for Trump just liked that Bernie said a lot of things other people weren't saying. Which isn't the right reason to vote for someone. At least the Bernie supporters I know support him because they believe in what he says.

(I... maybe shouldn't get into my own politics. I'll just say that I wasn't sure how some of his more far-reaching ideas would work in practice, as much as I liked them in theory. But believing they would've worked is fine. Voting for Trump instead because you just want an angry voice is not fine.)

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teragramm June 7 2016, 08:36:43 UTC
I too liked Bernie and feel bad that he isn't running. I am also concerned that many people won't feel Hilary is a good alternative to Trump. 1st because I've heard many people say A-B-C (anybody but clinton) 2nd she's a woman and many people are still, in this day and age, are very anti woman (you know the whole barefoot and pregnant thing) and 3rd. I can never predict how Americans will vote and sometimes they can get caught up with the crazy.

The prospect of President Trump scares the crap out of me.

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shapinglight June 7 2016, 09:14:22 UTC
With you all the way (though I have no particular opinion on Hilary, beyond that she has to be better than Trump).

The way the referendum 'debate' is going really scares me. Farage may be coding his messages, but his real meaning is pretty clear. It boggles the mind (well, my mind anyway) that anyone could support Brexit when the people in favour of it are so ghastly. IDS, for instance - worst leader of the opposition the Tories ever had, and since becoming a minister all he's done is kick the poor and disabled in the teeth. And people still listen to this man?

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bearshorty June 7 2016, 09:57:32 UTC

When I read that AP is projecting Clinton as the nominee with enough delegates, I actually got very emotional. Happy feelings. I voted for her in the primaries. And I love the potential for the first female president very much.

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denorios June 7 2016, 12:26:57 UTC
It's exciting, isn't it? I mean, sure, here in Britain we had a female prime minister thirty-odd years ago. But we haven't had one since, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. And it's potentially easier to happen over here, because our politics is so much less personality-driven. So for it to be within a chance of happening over there, it's a big big deal.

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