The plan is for the series to have 6 books, so the encroaching wars etc are probably on their way to being addressed eventually. XD Yeah, their very understated and yet nonetheless compelling - maybe because MWT doesn't try and hit you over the head with what she's trying to do, just touches on it and moves on. Or maybe there is just no defining HOW AWESOME she is. (So jealous
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The plan is for the series to have 6 books, so the encroaching wars etc are probably on their way to being addressed eventually. Six! *JOY*
I say this based on their REPEATED tendency to overlook and underestimate women. Then the Medes deserve NOTHING. It would be slightly better even if they said something along the lines of, "She is like a man in a woman's body!" and marked a big red exception around Attolia (and Eddis, she's no pushover either). Everything about Attolia screams DOES NOT MESS AROUND and they don't notice, repeatedly? Whatevs, Medes!
My assumption is that this is a deliberate indication of how very deeply they simply can't CONCEIVE of valuing a life that doesn't belong to a magicianA reasonable explanation! It didn't seem like there could be one, and I shall cling to it. The murder is still stupid but Gerald did prove beforehand that there's a big disconnect between the magicians and the rest of humanity - even Mae did to an extent, with how much she loves the
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Yes! The worry is more how long she's going to take to write the following books. I think there was a 10 year gap between some of them, which is just D
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TEN YEARS... Hopefully she has now hit her stride?!
Yeah, seriously, why exactly did they think Attolia's entire court walks on tiptoes around her? It really should be a hint. And even if Nahuseresh thinks that she's just mimicking what she was once taught by far more intelligent men, you'd think he'd STILL be careful of someone who was taught to dangle people from the city walls by their ankles.
Unless they're secretly engaging in massive arguments Hee. One minute a united front, and the moment the Muggles are gone it's "WHO ENCHANTED MY PEANUT BUTTER? Oh yeah and killed my sister that time."
Oh yeah, true, Helen is Celeste's problem. I think I like blaming things on Gerald because I sort of hate him. He's a good villain that way.
REPOSTED FOR GREAT JUSTICE (AND SPOILER PROTECTION)thelovemafiaOctober 14 2010, 07:01:40 UTC
A comment in which there is much sparkling, and also approval!
First off: I just want to say that this post is full of LOVE.
Also, I identify with this so MUCH: 6. Sleep is an invention by the man to prevent reading! Work in the morning, pssh, who cares. Not: WORK is an invention by the Man to prevent reading? (Then again, work does allow for income, which allows the buying of said books.)
Karen Healey After the paint-by-numbers intro, all those "things LJ fandom wants to see" are actually really good to see and feel organic. That is good to know! I haven't read the book, but got a sense of the "things LJ fandom wants to see" business from the LJ buzz and was put on guard, but glad that the gimmicks (for I am cruel!) do grow into themselves.
The Thief WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW HAPPY I AM THAT YOU ARE READING THIS SERIES. :D
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Re: REPOSTED FOR GREAT JUSTICE (AND SPOILER PROTECTION)demoerinOctober 15 2010, 04:02:01 UTC
Work VS Sleep VS Reading: Even if there was no work there would still be sleep, getting in the way of reading! Clearly it is the enemy.
Karen Healey: The writing feels overly self-aware more than gimmicky. But the things checked off in ticky boxes become part of the world, and the world feels real and recognisable for it.
and they reveal just enough distinguishing features of the characters (and plot, for the King cover) to clearly identify them to the series, but hold back things like the characters' FACES - very much like the way the books are written. Another excellent trait! BE STILL MY HEART. /swooning When I said they were a little boring, that's not exactly how I perceived them, but how marketing people might look at them. They often like more WHAM. (Speaking of, I don't approve covers alone; everything happens in caucus. Editors, people passing by, management, and the marketing department all can/have to weigh in. Which is why it's sometimes astonishing what makes it all the way to the printers.)
because I broke the comment limit on that onethelovemafiaOctober 14 2010, 07:12:48 UTC
Augh those scenes where Eddis and Eugenides pretend to be makin' it are so awkward. I have incest ships, but they don't feel half so incestuous as that. I confess: I would ship Eddis and Gen, so... yeah. I AM SORRY. I just like their personalities. It is unfortunate that I discovered too late that they were cousins.
There are great relationships in this series! Platonic, romantic, whatever. YES YES YES OMG.
THE ROMANCE: I think I exhausted everything I had to say about it in my comment tolacewood. *flops over*
But no, there goes Eugenides, in love and terrified, and Attolia ... ditto, but also purposefully terrifying into the bargain. When you put it that way it sounds amazingly endearing.
I would love to see a documentary about whatever the fuck kind of love life that's going to be (forgive me, but at the moment I see Eugenides screaming a lot in all kinds of situations. A LOT) When you put it that way it sounds amazingly HILARIOUS and something I would love to WATCH. I think it says a lot that TVTropes' description of Gen's
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Re: because I broke the comment limit on that onedemoerinOctober 15 2010, 04:48:18 UTC
Don't be sorry about shipping Eddis/Gen! It's not so much that they're cousins that bothers me, but to me they really feel like best-family-friends. That's all a matter of interpretation. I ship Bianchi/Gokudera - there can be no judgment from this end.
The romance: You might be right about Turner wanting to keep things in the dark about how much Eugenides and Attolia really love each other, but maybe that's my terror of Attolia and the whole relationship speaking. It would add a lot of tension, and there is the fact that it was about as much a political marriage as a personal one.
When you put it that way it sounds amazingly HILARIOUS and something I would love to WATCH. This is just because I kind of want to keep Attolia at arms length. She scares me! SERIOUSLY. Just watching, documentary-style, implies some emotional distance as opposed to wincing every time something looks like it might get awful for the characters. But I shall brave the reading. *grin*
I think it says a lot that TVTropes' description of Gen's PAIN is (I may be
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'damn it, I bought an incomplete copy, my version is missing all the pages where Mae jumps Sin!' So was mine. Ms. Brennan said on her LJ that the books had been recalled, but clearly defective copies are still floating about where you live and where I live. I went back and got the bookstore to replace the book (you should be able to as well, unless all the books are similarly defective).
Or, as she said, you could keep the defective!book as a special limited-edition one-of-(only)-a-(few)-kind treasure. ;)
And I liked her even more when she makes the effort to connect with her kids, and then hell yeah the Golf Club of Great Justice!Me too! I was extremely ticked off when she died. As another reader said, Ms. Brennan is determined to make all her characters motherless. Olivia I bought, because basically I saw her as mostly-dead since she'd been roped into Black Arthur's Demon Baby Production Line, death was the natural progression of her storyline. But Annabel TOO?! At the end of the second book AS WELL? Sin's mom is already (
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Stupid defective book. But I shall auction it for MILLIONS...! (Seriously, though, that subtext had to be on purpose. At one point they were lost in each other's eyes! To a backdrop of crashing waves in the night! AND THEN THE DANCE.)
As another reader said, Ms. Brennan is determined to make all her characters motherless. ...HEY! What is up with that? Olivia makes sense to me too, and I suppose Sin needs to be a new and relatively untested leader, and Merris needs to be a key figure as her mother figure (especially with Liannan around. I loved that plot twist!). Annabel's death was over the top, though, because it's not like Mae needed to lose both parents, Disney style, to go on magical adventures. She'd had a book full of them prior to the stabbination.
Saw how it was necessary; but also thought it was so silly. Jamie going to the circle was necessary and rather noble before Annabel got stabbed; then it was just--are you really going to fall for this, magicians?!
Though I confess I would prefer Annabel and Nick as sword-slinging
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I seriously recall loving Thief...a lot. Unfortunately I can't remember a single thing. Well, off to the library for the second time this week. *whistles* Personally I thought Thief was the nicest. 1) it was in first person. 2) no one got, well, ya know, their hand chopped off. :/
And Thief was definitely the nicest. Even if it got a little darker when Gen had to kill a soldier - yeah, it's certainly not on the level of Suddenly, AMPUTATION. XD
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The plan is for the series to have 6 books, so the encroaching wars etc are probably on their way to being addressed eventually.
Six! *JOY*
I say this based on their REPEATED tendency to overlook and underestimate women.
Then the Medes deserve NOTHING. It would be slightly better even if they said something along the lines of, "She is like a man in a woman's body!" and marked a big red exception around Attolia (and Eddis, she's no pushover either). Everything about Attolia screams DOES NOT MESS AROUND and they don't notice, repeatedly? Whatevs, Medes!
My assumption is that this is a deliberate indication of how very deeply they simply can't CONCEIVE of valuing a life that doesn't belong to a magicianA reasonable explanation! It didn't seem like there could be one, and I shall cling to it. The murder is still stupid but Gerald did prove beforehand that there's a big disconnect between the magicians and the rest of humanity - even Mae did to an extent, with how much she loves the ( ... )
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Yeah, seriously, why exactly did they think Attolia's entire court walks on tiptoes around her?
It really should be a hint. And even if Nahuseresh thinks that she's just mimicking what she was once taught by far more intelligent men, you'd think he'd STILL be careful of someone who was taught to dangle people from the city walls by their ankles.
Unless they're secretly engaging in massive arguments
Hee. One minute a united front, and the moment the Muggles are gone it's "WHO ENCHANTED MY PEANUT BUTTER? Oh yeah and killed my sister that time."
Oh yeah, true, Helen is Celeste's problem. I think I like blaming things on Gerald because I sort of hate him. He's a good villain that way.
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First off: I just want to say that this post is full of LOVE.
Also, I identify with this so MUCH:
6. Sleep is an invention by the man to prevent reading! Work in the morning, pssh, who cares.
Not: WORK is an invention by the Man to prevent reading? (Then again, work does allow for income, which allows the buying of said books.)
Karen Healey
After the paint-by-numbers intro, all those "things LJ fandom wants to see" are actually really good to see and feel organic.
That is good to know! I haven't read the book, but got a sense of the "things LJ fandom wants to see" business from the LJ buzz and was put on guard, but glad that the gimmicks (for I am cruel!) do grow into themselves.
The Thief WORDS CANNOT EXPRESS HOW HAPPY I AM THAT YOU ARE READING THIS SERIES. :D ( ... )
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Karen Healey: The writing feels overly self-aware more than gimmicky. But the things checked off in ticky boxes become part of the world, and the world feels real and recognisable for it.
and they reveal just enough distinguishing features of the characters (and plot, for the King cover) to clearly identify them to the series, but hold back things like the characters' FACES - very much like the way the books are written.
Another excellent trait! BE STILL MY HEART. /swooning When I said they were a little boring, that's not exactly how I perceived them, but how marketing people might look at them. They often like more WHAM. (Speaking of, I don't approve covers alone; everything happens in caucus. Editors, people passing by, management, and the marketing department all can/have to weigh in. Which is why it's sometimes astonishing what makes it all the way to the printers.)
Gen chained up in prison, ( ... )
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Augh those scenes where Eddis and Eugenides pretend to be makin' it are so awkward. I have incest ships, but they don't feel half so incestuous as that.
I confess: I would ship Eddis and Gen, so... yeah. I AM SORRY. I just like their personalities. It is unfortunate that I discovered too late that they were cousins.
There are great relationships in this series! Platonic, romantic, whatever.
YES YES YES OMG.
THE ROMANCE: I think I exhausted everything I had to say about it in my comment to lacewood. *flops over*
But no, there goes Eugenides, in love and terrified, and Attolia ... ditto, but also purposefully terrifying into the bargain.
When you put it that way it sounds amazingly endearing.
I would love to see a documentary about whatever the fuck kind of love life that's going to be (forgive me, but at the moment I see Eugenides screaming a lot in all kinds of situations. A LOT)
When you put it that way it sounds amazingly HILARIOUS and something I would love to WATCH. I think it says a lot that TVTropes' description of Gen's ( ... )
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The romance: You might be right about Turner wanting to keep things in the dark about how much Eugenides and Attolia really love each other, but maybe that's my terror of Attolia and the whole relationship speaking. It would add a lot of tension, and there is the fact that it was about as much a political marriage as a personal one.
When you put it that way it sounds amazingly HILARIOUS and something I would love to WATCH.
This is just because I kind of want to keep Attolia at arms length. She scares me! SERIOUSLY. Just watching, documentary-style, implies some emotional distance as opposed to wincing every time something looks like it might get awful for the characters. But I shall brave the reading. *grin*
I think it says a lot that TVTropes' description of Gen's PAIN is (I may be ( ... )
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So was mine. Ms. Brennan said on her LJ that the books had been recalled, but clearly defective copies are still floating about where you live and where I live. I went back and got the bookstore to replace the book (you should be able to as well, unless all the books are similarly defective).
Or, as she said, you could keep the defective!book as a special limited-edition one-of-(only)-a-(few)-kind treasure. ;)
And I liked her even more when she makes the effort to connect with her kids, and then hell yeah the Golf Club of Great Justice!Me too! I was extremely ticked off when she died. As another reader said, Ms. Brennan is determined to make all her characters motherless. Olivia I bought, because basically I saw her as mostly-dead since she'd been roped into Black Arthur's Demon Baby Production Line, death was the natural progression of her storyline. But Annabel TOO?! At the end of the second book AS WELL? Sin's mom is already ( ( ... )
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As another reader said, Ms. Brennan is determined to make all her characters motherless.
...HEY! What is up with that? Olivia makes sense to me too, and I suppose Sin needs to be a new and relatively untested leader, and Merris needs to be a key figure as her mother figure (especially with Liannan around. I loved that plot twist!). Annabel's death was over the top, though, because it's not like Mae needed to lose both parents, Disney style, to go on magical adventures. She'd had a book full of them prior to the stabbination.
Saw how it was necessary; but also thought it was so silly.
Jamie going to the circle was necessary and rather noble before Annabel got stabbed; then it was just--are you really going to fall for this, magicians?!
Though I confess I would prefer Annabel and Nick as sword-slinging ( ... )
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Well, off to the library for the second time this week. *whistles*
Personally I thought Thief was the nicest.
1) it was in first person.
2) no one got, well, ya know, their hand chopped off. :/
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And Thief was definitely the nicest. Even if it got a little darker when Gen had to kill a soldier - yeah, it's certainly not on the level of Suddenly, AMPUTATION. XD
(Just noticed you've added me - adding back!)
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