Taub was the only one speaking sense to House besides Wilson. Also: Foreman telling Wilson that he should suck it up and go through a draining medical procedure for his friend's sake? WTH? Gross
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I think maybe the thing with Foreman was a callback to the episode where Wilson had tickets to a big prizefight, but House couldn't go because he still had his ankle monitor. So Foreman gave him this big spiel about staying home and being House's friend, and Wilson bought it and gave Foreman the tickets ... and House and Foreman went to the fight instead.
So this time, when Foreman gave him the big speech about being responsible for House, Wilson didn't buy it. And yeah, it was gross.
Foreman telling Wilson that he should suck it up and go through a draining medical procedure for his friend's sake? WTH? Gross.
I have to watch it again, because the takeaway I got was Foreman saying that Wilson shouldn't fight against his own nature, shouldn't steel himself not to care about House.
That "tell me you love me" moment in the car was amazing.
It was amazing. And it was Wilson finally, finally understanding/admitting what he truly wanted: "I need to know my life mattered. I need you to tell me you love me."
(Secret gloaty glee for the "House is not my child" line, because of having called it that they really do act like House is Wilson's child)
OK, I read the transcript someone on Tumblr made of the Foreman-Wilson scene, and yes it was utterly gross. Sorry I mis-remembered it.
Wilson: He's not my child. I cannot be responsible for the happiness of Gregory House. Foreman: You are responsible...The last 20 years, you've had 3 wives, hundreds of colleagues, thousands of patients, but you've kept that one best friend. Wilson: He wants me to suffer a misery that I don't wanna go through Foreman: Chemo won't make your life any better. but caring will. Enduring pain to do some good for someone you care about, isn't that what life is?
I loved that Wilson, having figured out what he needed, insisted on it with House. And getting it too! That was great. I don't know what's going to happen next. House will escape and run away with Wilson? Wilson will undergo treatment so he can wait for House to finish his sentence?
I don't know what's going to happen next, but I know what outcome I want to root for. That wasn't the case before Monday's episode, so I am much happier now. :)
I am really messed up from that episode. The scene in the car...Wilson bawling...I felt so terrible that Wilson couldn't see that House was really trying to get past his own feelings.
The one thing that keeps tripping me up is, so what's so horrible about chemo? I know it can be hideous, but I know many people who have had multiple rounds and have survived and prospered. (And have not had huge reactions.)
The one thing that keeps tripping me up is, so what's so horrible about chemo? I know it can be hideous, but I know many people who have had multiple rounds and have survived and prospered. (And have not had huge reactions.)
I agree completely. To give up on life without even trying chemo for a little while and reevaluating...it just doesn't strike me as something Wilson would really do. I also wish Wilson wasn't so completely clueless as to the real reason why House wants him to fight. This guy is supposed to be someone who is able to intellectually keep up with House? I love Wilson, but sheesh!
Wilson isn't clueless as to why House wants him to fight. What he wanted was for House to let it be Wilson's decision.
One of the fears I think Wilson has, which he isn't going to say out loud, is that House would get bored during a long illness and would leave. Then Wilson would be alone and sick (or only with acquaintances, which would compel Wilson to put up a persona). House is amazing in a crisis. An amazing friend. But remember from the pilot? "She has a brain tumor; she's going to die. Boring." A long, boring, cranky, messy, trudging slog as caregiver just is not something that House would be well-suited to. It's natural that Wilson would prefer a shorter time than a longer one with uncertain outcome.
A long, boring, cranky, messy, trudging slog as caregiver just is not something that House would be well-suited to. It's natural that Wilson would prefer a shorter time than a longer one with uncertain outcome.But I think that in Wilson's case House would stick around. Wilson is the exception to almost every rule House has, or so it seems. Besides, a nurse could be hired to come in part-time to help House out with the more mundane and messy stuff or as respite when he needed it. As long as Wilson's mind stayed intact, I doubt House would find him all that boring. I understand not wanting to waste away for no reason when all avenues of hope have been explored and exhausted. What I don't understand is giving up when you haven't even begun to exhaust your options. That's what it appears, at least to me, to be what Wilson is doing and I totally relate with House's frustration with that. Wilson has abandoned House (temporarily) in the past when things got rough but House hasn't abandoned Wilson (I don't consider his flight from
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Re: Suspension of Disbelief.....deelaundryMay 15 2012, 18:35:37 UTC
I gave up on "House-land" matching the real world in Season Three when PPTH let Tritter set up an office inside the hospital with no warrant and not even officially on duty. HE IS TRESPASSING; THROW HIM OUT.
So yes, I absolutely agree with you that the pipe thing was ridiculous in the real world. Just try to remember that "House-land" has different laws, protocols, job titles (Stacy used to work for PPTH, but she's a constitutional lawyer, which a hospital doesn't need), time-space continuum (1990-1991, when Wilson was married to his first wife, was ten years before Season Six, while Hector the dog Wilson & his second wife bought as a puppy on their honeymoon was 17 years old in Season Three), and hospital staffing models than the real world.
Re: Suspension of Disbelief.....pgrabiaMay 15 2012, 23:16:17 UTC
Agreed. All they would have had to do was find the toilet that the tickets were flushed down, isolate that plumbing line and shut it down. In a building the size of a hospital they have to do that sort of thing frequently. Case in point--when my grandma was in hospital her roommate decided to spite the nurse by flushing her adult diaper down the toilet. That toilet overflowed and they had to shut down that bathroom--but the entire hospital was not affected and no floors/ceilings gave way.
However, this is [H]ouse, and unfortunately these writers have jumped the shark so many times over the past couple of years that you can't expect realism, consistency or logic from the lot of them. [H]ouse used to be the best written show on TV, but it hasn't been that for at least two full seasons and arguably longer than that. Don't get me wrong--I love the show, but the writing is far from outstanding anymore. It's the acting that carries this show now.
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So this time, when Foreman gave him the big speech about being responsible for House, Wilson didn't buy it. And yeah, it was gross.
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I have to watch it again, because the takeaway I got was Foreman saying that Wilson shouldn't fight against his own nature, shouldn't steel himself not to care about House.
That "tell me you love me" moment in the car was amazing.
It was amazing. And it was Wilson finally, finally understanding/admitting what he truly wanted: "I need to know my life mattered. I need you to tell me you love me."
(Secret gloaty glee for the "House is not my child" line, because of having called it that they really do act like House is Wilson's child)
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Wilson: He's not my child. I cannot be responsible for the happiness of Gregory House.
Foreman: You are responsible...The last 20 years, you've had 3 wives, hundreds of colleagues, thousands of patients, but you've kept that one best friend.
Wilson: He wants me to suffer a misery that I don't wanna go through
Foreman: Chemo won't make your life any better. but caring will. Enduring pain to do some good for someone you care about, isn't that what life is?
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And getting it too! That was great.
I don't know what's going to happen next. House will escape and run away with Wilson? Wilson will undergo treatment so he can wait for House to finish his sentence?
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The one thing that keeps tripping me up is, so what's so horrible about chemo? I know it can be hideous, but I know many people who have had multiple rounds and have survived and prospered. (And have not had huge reactions.)
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I agree completely. To give up on life without even trying chemo for a little while and reevaluating...it just doesn't strike me as something Wilson would really do. I also wish Wilson wasn't so completely clueless as to the real reason why House wants him to fight. This guy is supposed to be someone who is able to intellectually keep up with House? I love Wilson, but sheesh!
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One of the fears I think Wilson has, which he isn't going to say out loud, is that House would get bored during a long illness and would leave. Then Wilson would be alone and sick (or only with acquaintances, which would compel Wilson to put up a persona). House is amazing in a crisis. An amazing friend. But remember from the pilot? "She has a brain tumor; she's going to die. Boring." A long, boring, cranky, messy, trudging slog as caregiver just is not something that House would be well-suited to. It's natural that Wilson would prefer a shorter time than a longer one with uncertain outcome.
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So yes, I absolutely agree with you that the pipe thing was ridiculous in the real world. Just try to remember that "House-land" has different laws, protocols, job titles (Stacy used to work for PPTH, but she's a constitutional lawyer, which a hospital doesn't need), time-space continuum (1990-1991, when Wilson was married to his first wife, was ten years before Season Six, while Hector the dog Wilson & his second wife bought as a puppy on their honeymoon was 17 years old in Season Three), and hospital staffing models than the real world.
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However, this is [H]ouse, and unfortunately these writers have jumped the shark so many times over the past couple of years that you can't expect realism, consistency or logic from the lot of them. [H]ouse used to be the best written show on TV, but it hasn't been that for at least two full seasons and arguably longer than that. Don't get me wrong--I love the show, but the writing is far from outstanding anymore. It's the acting that carries this show now.
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