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[ It takes Esther a while before she figures out how to word this properly. ]

Let's say someone you knew and trusted for a very long time betrayed you. They lied manipulated killed people attempted to did some awful things. Some people would even say because of those actions, this person's soul is..."beyond repair

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[king_no_life]

Does your Lord forgive the trespasses of the Original betrayer?

Humans are molded in His image, would you not do as He?

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[declaim]

No.

But we are told to forgive. For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

[ Someone has been glued to their Bible lately. ]

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[king_no_life]

[ One can tell, irritably so. ]

You needn't quote the Word to me, Sister, I know His laws well enough. I would merely like to see Him abide by them Himself. Yet.. that is a debate for a later time.

[ A bitter subject for him. ]

What will you do when those whom you've forgiven betray you once more? If they are capable of it even but once, who's to say they cannot be corrupted again?

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Ah...forgive me.

[ But that comment made her curious. ]

What do you mean, "abide by them Himself"?

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Who's to say they will be corrupted again? I would hate to become a person who has lost faith in people and their ability to change for the better.

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What if you want to, but other people that you care about don't?

1/2

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[ Pfft that hit a nerve ]

[musical_wings]

If someone truly wants to be forgiven, they will be.

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That's what I'd like to think, too.

[musical_wings]

It is the truth though.

[hispoisonsmile]

Only God Himself knows what He will and will not forgive. Though He is capable of unending mercy, there is a side of our Lord that people often forget-- and that is the cruel, vengeful God of ancient times. Is it any surprise that mankind, created in His image, is capable of the same?

We were given the commandment to forgive, though, and that is something that we should always strive to do. No matter how difficult it is, no matter how horrendous the crime.

Please always remember that 'forgiveness' and 'trust' are not synonymous, though. You may forgive a person and still be wary; there is no sin in that.

This is simply my humble opinion, of course, as we all have interpretations of Our Lord's Word. Only His Holiness could give you a truly accurate answer to your question.

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Yes...that is very true.

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'Trust' and 'forgiveness' may not be synonymous, but should they not go together? If you are to forgive someone and welcome them back into your life, surely you should be able to trust them once more.

[hispoisonsmile]

It is up to the one forgiven and accepted again to earn that trust with words and deeds.

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And if the person is truly sincere...it will show, right?

[crippledroyalty]

As long as someone will reach out to them, they're not beyond saving.

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No matter what they've done?

[crippledroyalty]

Even if they've done terrible things, and especially if they regret it.

...do you know why that person did it?

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Well...yes, and no.

It's very complicated.