OOTP Chapter Thirty-Three: "Fight and Flight"

Dec 27, 2011 20:58


* A mercifully short chapter, this - only eleven pages long.

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author: for_diddled, chapter commentary, chapter commentary: ootp, ootp

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oryx_leucoryx December 27 2011, 21:35:27 UTC
You skipped the most interesting part of the chapter - Hermione's 'negotiation' with the centaurs. Where she basically tells them she doesn't appreciate them any more than Umbridge does - they were just useful tools to her (compared with Umbridge thinking of them as animals). If Grawp had arrived just a bit later Hermione would have shared Umbridge's fate, whatever it was.

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urbanman1984 December 27 2011, 22:10:37 UTC
Quite right - seriously what to make of that dialogue now the series is over? Or Hermione's observation about Firenze "I never liked horses?" If Pansy Parkinson said it was okay Lupin left and added "I never liked wolves" Hermione would have been outraged at the bigoty...

It can only be summed up by "It's Okay If A Gryffindor Does It."

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borg_princess December 28 2011, 11:15:36 UTC
IOIAGDI is so accurate. I remember when someone ranted to me about how prejudiced Snape was in referring to Lupin as 'the werewolf'- when I think it's understandable coming from someone who is confronted by enemies in the very place where he was set up by Sirius to be attacked by Lupin in werewolf form, that's hard to look past- and totally overlooked Ron shouting at Lupin, 'Get away from me, werewolf!'

You'd think that'd be worse, coming from a kid who'd liked and respected Lupin, who'd been treated well by him. But no, it's Snape being proven as the horrible person, as always. *eyeroll* Love how the prejudices in our main characters are overlooked time and time again. Or they're not counted as prejudice- anti-Muggle sentiment, for instance, because Muggles are inferior to wizards, so it's okay to use spells on them and exploit the situation as one sees fit.

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for_diddled December 29 2011, 14:33:52 UTC
Ah, but Hermione's not being prejudiced here. Yes, she treats the centaurs like tools, but she does the same to everybody else as well. Probably she'd act the same if it were a group of students hiding out in the Forest, like the DA does in Deathly Hallows. So that's alright then.

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borg_princess December 28 2011, 11:21:58 UTC
It “seemed incredible to Harry that twenty feet away there were people enjoying dinner, celebrating the end of exams, not a care in the world…”

Yes, all those students who would come to Harry and Hermione's aid if they attracted their attention...guys, seriously, SCREAM. It'd take Umbridge a few moments to Silencio you both, surely enough time to get help?

Umbridge isn’t doing a very good job controlling Harry and Hermione, is she? IKR? Why not use Cruciatus on her now to get the info instead of being blindly led around? Oh, wait, it's HP, we can't have rational villains ( ... )

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aikaterini December 28 2011, 15:35:17 UTC
/Adults who can Apparate are far more useful than children taking the thestral express ( ... )

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sunnyskywalker December 28 2011, 21:12:13 UTC
The sad thing is, if they had just run back in and used Umbridge's fireplace to Floo to the Ministry, being too Gryffindor discombobulated to think of calling Molly or Tonks or anyone, they still could have blundered into the trap and gotten the same ending. Probably the DEs had an incredibly boring few hours standing around waiting for the kids to show up. ("So, Lucius... got any gum?")

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for_diddled December 29 2011, 14:36:00 UTC
"Probably the DEs had an incredibly boring few hours standing around waiting for the kids to show up. ("So, Lucius... got any gum?")"

Nah, gum's a bit lower-class for the Malfoys. More likely they'd spend the time playing parlour games, like charades or twenty questions.

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