TVD 3x19: No need to pray, no need to speak now I am under.

[dante_kent]

Um. So. This episode.

..................

I am literally lost for words. This does not happen to me, as you well know. I just. I have lost the ability to can.

It's been a long, hard three weeks, people. I kept meaning to post hiatus-y things, but I've been weirdly busy and thus weirdly absent, and I apologize. I've missed you, flist! But I'm back,

Comments

[badboy_fangirl]

"What do you need? Candles? Incense? Pottery wheel?" OMG POTTERY WHEEL. HOW DO YOU EVEN EXIST, DAMON. I promise I'll stop just quoting lines soon. But. Pottery wheel. I will love this boy all my life.
THE BEST PART IS HE CALLS HIM 'WHOOPI' AS THEY WALK INTO THE MOTEL ROOM. Ghost reference FTW!

LOL FOREVER at Stefan's face when Damon tells him they're at a motel. It's pretty much "Didn't I write a romance novel just like this?" Because you know Stefan wrote romance novels in the 70s or 80s. He had a whole series of male romantic leads named Stefano.
This was the ACTUAL BEST MOMENT for me, aside from all things D/E. Because seriously, his muppet face is adorable.

You know that I will pretty much flail and agree with all of your D/E meta, but this line is what sums it up:
And it frustrates Elena, his unwillingness to compromise. But even worse, it doesn't change how she feels about him.THAT'S ALL, THE END. She loves him even though OR BECAUSE of everything he is, completely and literally honest to the point of pain. Never will they

[upupa_epops]

I hereby inform you that I couldn't resist your icon.

[badboy_fangirl]

I love Mean Girls and have a collection of TVD pics overlaid with MG dialogue. Two of my most favorite things ever!

[upupa_epops]

Valid lifestyle choice! I've only seen MG once, so I don't remember the actual lines very well. But I do remember laughing like a maniac.

I disgust myself, part 1

[upupa_epops]

Oh, curse you. I was just going to bed. So much for sleeping.

Damon switched whatever comfort book Elena brought Alaric (Chicken Soup for the Occasionally to Frequently Homicidal Soul?) to Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, and I rejoice. Damon, you continue to be the actual best. Carry on, sir.

It is always Damon who gets to make literary references!

Ok, I'm a bit conflicted about the Damon/Elena road trip being Stefan's idea.

I actually persuaded myself to like it. Look, the episode starts with Stefan deciding that a roadtrip would be Elena's ~journey into her own soul. Very neat. Very symbolic. And by the end, in Scary Mary's house... Damon practically mocks this idea? "This trip, you kissing me. What the hell is this? (...) I guess you thought this little trip would help you figure that out, didn't you?" Especially the last sentence is delivered with surprising sarcasm. Stefan created a symbol, Damon doesn't buy it, and the whole exchange is through Elena. Because Stefan is Elena's adolescent side, the one that believes in turning

[ever_neutral]

Look, the episode starts with Stefan deciding that a roadtrip would be Elena's ~journey into her own soul. Very neat. Very symbolic... So it makes sense that Stefan would send Elena on a roadtrip, because, let's face it, in Elena's situation, a roadtrip is an IDIOTIC solution that only makes sense if we consider a symbolic order. And Stefan's symbolic order has just been rejected by the narrative. #i can fanwank anything

AWWWW FUCK YOU WHY ARE YOU FLAWLESS

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I'm glad you approve of my fanwank.

Re: I disgust myself, part 1

[dante_kent]

What is sleeping even? I've given that up.

I love all your rationalization re: Stefan coming up with the road trip idea on an Elena level, but I still can't tolerate the Stefan of it. I love the contrast between Stefan and Damon and their ideas of the contrived narrative, but I still want to slap Stefan a little. Can't help it.

Damon kills people without blinking, but he doesn't play with food.

Ok, good point. I buy it.

I still don't understand why Stefan told Klaus about the bloodlines. I don't think it really was to protect Alaric, because Klaus wanted to find the stake regardless of the bloodlines issue. I'm just genuinely confused as to what Stefan thought he was doing there. WHY DO YOU DO THESE THINGS, STEFAN? All the Stefan woe.

I disgust myself, part 2

[upupa_epops]

The D/E. Liz, I can't. My entire being is based on my inability to can. Send help.

And Elena opens her eyes, and she sees it. And she can't look away. She's never gotten this chance, never seen him just be. I rather love how the first thing he does (after getting himself a drink, naturally) is check the window. He's protecting them. He cares. And Elena sees.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He can be this for her. So she closes her eyes, and he lets her. That could be that. But then she opens her eyes again.

I choose this moment to remind you of our June wedding. You know, me, your brain.

So he lies down next to her, and they've done this before, but this feels different. They're not bickering, no one's dying, the world isn't ending. They just want each other. This is the first time they've ever been operating on that notion at the same time. And it makes a world of difference. I CAN'T. Damon starts this whole scene with his guard down, and after he spots Elena watching him, HE DOESN'T GET IT

Re: I disgust myself, part 2

[dante_kent]

You know how I feel about the D/E in this ep. We spent the entire weekend feeling. STILL IN AWE.

I choose this moment to remind you of our June wedding. You know, me, your brain.

My brain has been sampling cakes and picking out flower arrangements. It's on.

Damon starts this whole scene with his guard down, and after he spots Elena watching him, HE DOESN'T GET IT UP. He just allows her see him vulnerable.

YESYESYES EXACTLY. The mutual agreement to just be with each other in this scene was stunning.

THEY MIRROR. THEY MEET. THEY NEVER, EVER MELT.

OMG I LOVE THIS SO SO MUCH.

She's not adapting a fixed symbolic persona any more. He pushes her to think of her individual reasons in this particular situation.

A+++++++++++

Ngl, I'm still a little embarrassed about how I basically just talked about every single thing that happened and just added flail. But you validate my questionable life choices. ♥

I disgust myself, part 3

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I found the whole Caro being able to beat Damon in 3x04 because she was angrier thing to be terribly silly. Older equals stronger.

Oho, my nit-picking minute. IT'S PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO READ MOBY DICK OVERNIGHT. I know, because I tried.

I found the whole Caro being able to beat Damon in 3x04 because she was angrier thing to be terribly silly. Older equals stronger.

It does. But Caro had an element of surprise on her side, plus Damon underestimated her. So she managed to push him off, grab her dad and run like hell. Not THAT impossible.

She answers that she doesn't know if she has feelings for him, and I'm just like, come on, girl. Really? Come on.

It's not like that, I think. Elena is being terribly, terribly honest. Everyone and their dog know that she WANTS him. They have something. That goes without question. Damon doesn't ask: "Do you have any feelings at all?". He asks: "Are you feeling what I think you're feeling?". And that, she REALLY doesn't know.

Smart Damon, just........A Farewell To Panties. Huh? What are

Re: I disgust myself, part 3

[dante_kent]

They have something. That goes without question. Damon doesn't ask: "Do you have any feelings at all?". He asks: "Are you feeling what I think you're feeling?". And that, she REALLY doesn't know.

I like this. I think my issue was just with her usage of that nebulous term 'feelings.' Because OF COURSE she has 'feelings' for him, of some sort or another. She might not know what they are, but she does have them. But that being said, I like your interpretation, and I'm going with it. ;)

DAMON PROMISES ELENA HE WON'T SCREW UP, AND HE DOES IT BECAUSE HE'S BEING A DICK.

My glorious brat prince for all the wins ever. ALL of them.

I was trying to bet Alex that this time you'll write a review that would be too long to fit one post.

OMG THIS TOTALLY HAPPENED. I was horrified. I had to delete a random insignificant comment about Matt to make room. What am I even.

[pocochina]

Mmmm. I think a lot of Stefan can be explained with the not-unreasonable assumption that his relationship with Elena, while heartfelt, is less the motivating factor than his own struggles for control/agency. He wanted her to go off with Damon because he was ashamed to be around her while he's dealing with the vampire stuff.

Elena totally looks at Alaric after she mentions the aforementioned potential unresolved feelings for Damon, hoping one last time for him to get indignant and horrified, and he fails AGAIN. So she sighs and admits she'll have to deal with it herself.

ha, yes. She's so used to justifying her romantic choices with this normative framework. No, sweetie. They're all vampires. Nail who you want to nail, or don't.

Rose! Lauren Cohan! <3

"I said creepy, not ugly." NEVER LEAVE ME, DAMON. TO ME, YOU ARE PERFECT.

HE IS MY SPECIAL ANGEL.

it IS so sad that Rebekah is so damaged. That the slightest kindness throws her, because even after a thousand years she's never really had that. But it's also so terribly tragic that

[dante_kent]

He wanted her to go off with Damon because he was ashamed to be around her while he's dealing with the vampire stuff.

Oooh, interesting. I hadn't thought of this before.

They're all vampires. Nail who you want to nail, or don't.

I vote for the nailing, personally. #shallow

Hello, fellow Rose/Lauren Cohan fan! Lady is awesome.

HE IS MY SPECIAL ANGEL.

Isn't he just? #helpless to my glorious brat prince