Leave a comment

Comments 41

borgmama1of5 January 29 2015, 17:24:55 UTC
Don't be shy, tell us how you really feel :)

Reply

cuddyclothes January 29 2015, 17:34:22 UTC
I don't know why this one got to me so much, but it did.

Reply

percysowner January 29 2015, 18:40:04 UTC
Well it got to me because in addition to Sam being his usually useless self we also got Charlie "I saved all of Oz all by myself by turning dark" Bradbury, Then instead of Sam getting to talk to her about, oh I don't know, drinking demon blood to TRY to save the world and then taking on Lucifer to actually save the world or even remembering that at one point he was close to being two people, Soulless Sam upstairs and his soul in the Cage and then he had to live with what his dark side did; instead of all that it immediately became ALL ABOUT DEAN and HIS problems. So basically Charlie the perfect plus Sam's past is ignored, plus Dean's never ending pain was just really hard to take ( ... )

Reply

cuddyclothes January 29 2015, 19:25:25 UTC
That's an excellent point. Sex is bad and leads to bad things (esp. if you're Sam). I've been baffled at several points about why Sam isn't sharing the experiences he's had when they are so relevant to the issues at hand. Even to Dean! He knows what it's like to go "dark side," even if he didn't kill for pleasure. But he was a killing machine. Sam has touched evil many times. I don't understand why he doesn't share that.

And your points about Sam and Charlie are spot-on. He's in the perfect position to talk to her about dark and light. I understand that this is Dean's story, but it doesn't mean they can't add depth.

Reply


meckman37 January 29 2015, 18:01:31 UTC
Loved your review. Saved me from having to actually watch the episode. I can't stand to watch Supernatural, co-starring Sam as pretty, pretty wallpaper.

Reply

cuddyclothes January 29 2015, 19:26:32 UTC
I share my pain to spare others. Thank you for reading!

Reply


manzanita_crow January 29 2015, 18:31:36 UTC
I love your rants - they are one of the two reasons I still watch. The other being that the fandom write MUCH BETTER stories that are based on the canon, so I kinda need an idea of what canon is.

Reply

cuddyclothes January 29 2015, 19:27:20 UTC
Thank you! It means a lot to me!

Reply


alleysweeper January 29 2015, 18:44:12 UTC
This has to be the most accurate review I have seen.

I hate, Hate, HATE parallels and they give us one every year. Add Charlie and that just compounds the hate. I know the uproar it would have caused, but I was hoping they would have killed Charlie off. Instead the left the door open for her to return.

And since when is a cheeseburger evil? Did I miss something? To see Dean deny himself the simple pleasure of EATING was heartbreaking...in a pathetically over-the-top kind of way. Food. Sleep. Drinking. Next he'll be listening to Gospel music.

Reply

cuddyclothes January 29 2015, 19:28:56 UTC
Next he'll be listening to Gospel music.

BWAHAAA! Before we had him gobbling down food as a sign of the Mark taking over. The whole asceticism angle doesn't work.

Reply

alleysweeper January 29 2015, 20:40:51 UTC
The whole asceticism angle doesn't work.

It really kinda does. To Dean, eating is as close to religious ecstasy as one can get - especially when pie's involved.

Reply

spnmonster January 29 2015, 21:01:46 UTC
Or Christian rock, you know.

I'd argue that we're getting a lot more than one parallel, but I don't have the energy or interest to bother. It seems like every ep has to have parallels to something. Why can't they just tell the damned story. Oh wait, then Sam might get to do something besides worry and research.

Reply


mangacat201 January 29 2015, 18:44:53 UTC
I understand your issue with the way Sam was handled in this episode (actually the whole last batch if we're all honest) and I agree. There's been much hemming and hawing over the focus on Dean with the MOC-storyline directed both ways of 'finally' and 'how can they', but while I've been intrigued with the idea itself, I do have a problem with the execution in so far that whenever the focus has been on Sam from the myth-arc perspective, Dean was if not always deeply tied into the solution, at least the emotional center of the conflict. And I feel that right now, they've stripped Sam of all the qualities that would make him useful in the condrundum (suddenly being unable to use a computer, throw a punch, sniff out a bad guy) only to fill the void with a lot of supporting characters that I find individually great and additive to the show, but that have also relegated Sam to oscillate between damsel in distress and encyclopedic window dressing which is decidedly NOT how it should be. Maybe it's because Dean's range of strengths has ( ... )

Reply

cuddyclothes January 30 2015, 03:11:47 UTC
Rant appreciated muchly!

Many, many good points, and more cogent that I could have managed! I don't understand why Sam has been so unused, when the character used to have a lot of depth. We saw most things from Dean's POV, but that didn't prevent Sam from being interesting, even when not possessed/crazy/whatever.

Reply

mangacat201 January 30 2015, 07:58:48 UTC
I do feel like the boys asked for a bit more time off or at least to tone down on the 14-h-workdays, which I understand, I mean they're not in their mid-twenties anymore and got families who'd like to see them for more than half an hour on Skype while the set gets redressed. And considering the s6-7 rampage of 'let's kill off the Winchester's support system that they don't have anyway' left us dearly short-staffed on meaningful recurring characters, so I'm all down with bringing back those we have or creating new, interesting people on both sides of the good-bad spectrum. But that's no excuse not to give really meaty material to the leads. I feel like the writer's room should have a supernatural marathon together to rekindle the feeling of why we love the show and why THEY love the show ( ... )

Reply

alleysweeper January 30 2015, 23:45:52 UTC
If it's time they want to be with their families, maybe they should, I don't know, STAY HOME ON THE WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF GOING TO CONS?

*please make sure their stories actually have something to DO with the Winchesters*

Right? I don't give a shit about Clair or Crowley or Charlie independently. And now I don't care if I ever see Charlie again. She has been dulled by overuse. Much like with Bobby, the brothers were dumbed down so that Charlie could shine.

Reply


Leave a comment

Up