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Poll: Self-Promotion in the Rose & Bay Awards

Mar 05, 2012 14:09

The 2012 Rose & Bay Awards are now complete. I've noticed that while activity tends to be low in the nomination phase, it rises sharply in the voting phase as nominees get their audiences involved, some of whom are quite lively. I'd like to see more activity in the nomination phase, because a lot of promising candidates never even show up.

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robling_t March 5 2012, 20:33:52 UTC

Hm, maybe a middle ground might be to have an official "please consider my work for nomination" post on the comm, to raise awareness of what's out there and active/eligible/interested without having to involve the creators directly in the actual nominating? I know that as a creator I was thrilled to have spontaneously been put up for a R&B (and by a new reader, no less), in a way that wouldn't have been quite so, well, cool, if I'd simply put the work up myself...

Yes... ysabetwordsmith March 6 2012, 06:11:19 UTC

This seems to be a popular idea.

minor_architect March 5 2012, 20:58:09 UTC

May I vote for what robling_t has suggested? I think this may widen the field of nominations without sacrificing the award's credibility. At the very least, it would give patrons and creator-patrons a list of eligible projects to enjoy -and possibly support- before the nomination period even begins!

The tricky part, of course, is figuring out when to hold this "open season." I hesitate to suggest December because everyone's busy that month...but I'm not sure what our other options are. Thoughts?

wordslinger March 6 2012, 01:26:00 UTC

I agree. Excellent suggestion

Hmm... ysabetwordsmith March 6 2012, 06:26:19 UTC

Putting the post at the beginning of January would let people go straight to the nomination pages, and it would be at a less busy time of year than holiday season.

meeksp March 5 2012, 20:59:09 UTC

I have no objection to creators nominating and voting for their own work, but to me it makes sense for there to be more votes than nominations. robling_t's suggestion is a good one...any project that's likely to get more than the creator's vote will probably have at least one fan who would respond to a request for nomination. Each project can only be nominated once, though, so there should still be an increase in activity during the voting period.

ariestess March 5 2012, 21:11:45 UTC

I'll have to add my voice to the support of robling_t's idea. It makes more sense to me...

A more general comment ankewehner March 5 2012, 21:16:58 UTC

Meeks has a pretty good point, but about getting more nominations...

Maybe having clearer guidelines what can be nominated would help? I didn't nominate projects because I could not tell if anything I knew (that had not been already nominated by other people) was acceptable.

I asked for clarification on webcomics and was told that only a tip jar was not enough, so since I didn't know a webcomic doing something like asking for reader input for plots regularly, I didn't nominate any. Later I saw a nomination had been accepted because there was a merchandise shop, and was pretty confused.

Knowing minimum requirements of "interactivity" would really be helpful.

Re: A more general comment ysabetwordsmith March 6 2012, 06:46:08 UTC

It's a challenge to find a balance between giving people enough information to make nominations, and keeping the rules short enough that people will actually read them. Several previous remarks have said that the rules were already too long and complicated.

Eligibility depends on a combination two things: some way of making money, and some way of audience interaction. With some projects it's really easy to tell whether they qualify or not. Others are much more difficult, and yes, there have been times when I've hunted around and abandoned a whole bunch of projects because I couldn't really tell.

Re: A more general comment ankewehner March 6 2012, 07:25:37 UTC

Maybe it would look like less if there was one post with the full rules, and only summaries and category-specific things on the category pages?

Or maybe instead in addition to the "you may ask" note a link to a list with examples of features what makes a project OK.

What is the minimum requirement to fulfil having "audience interaction"? Would a forum be sufficient? Or comment threads on the content-bits?