The Logic Problem in Wonder Woman #7

[crabby_lioness]

This is a sequel to my post yesterday http://crabby-lioness.livejournal.com/86813.html and to this post on noscans http://noscans-daily.livejournal.com/513387.html  If you're not up on the latest attempt to make Wonder Woman

Comments

[kiev4am]

Ha! Epic logic win! That is so ridiculously obvious, now that you mention it, that the people on the book should be very embarrassed. Or is this just more proof that the envisaged target audience is adolescent males who are female-illiterate and want to keep it that way? :/

I really like your headcanon, too, btw. Makes perfect sense and is perfectly in keeping with the Amazons as originally conceived. (clearly the 'enhancing their reputation' bit is the reason this idea has never been adopted by TPTB...*snark*)

[crabby_lioness]

Bleeding Cool reported during the Starfire debacle that DC's female staffers tried to sit down with the writer before the comic went to print and point out the problems. Where were those staffers this time? Have they quit or just given up?

[kiev4am]

If memory serves, the gossip was that those women got totally mansplained at when they raised their concerns, so yeah, they probably just gave up :/

[crabby_lioness]

That fits. :(

[britgeekgrrl]

I can't believe I'm saying this but, gods, I'm glad that Alex (who was a huuuuge WW fan) isn't alive to see the dreck that has been the DC reboot...

[crabby_lioness]

I'm sorry. I must have posted half a dozen things lately where I thought about it afterwards and went, "Oh, that's going to make Johana think of Alex."

My husband is a huge Silver Age DC fanboy, frequently arguing with me about why DC is better than Marvel. When I got back into comics a few years ago he'd often ask what DC was doing. I'd flail around helplessly and stammer, "Just don't ask. You don't want to know."

When the DCnU started I broke down and told him about the last three reboots. He was silent for a long time, then said, "So DC is courting the weak-willed beta male market." When I told him about the Starfire debacle he said, "That's it. We are never buying a DC comic again."

DC is supposedly doing all this to woo back older male former comic book readers. Around here at least its failing spectacularly in that regard.

[swordznsorcery]

Ugh. This whole thing just seems tacky and ill thought out. And it's not even as though it's original. The "captive men being used to repopulate the species" trope has been done so many times it's ridiculous.

I don't follow comics, just the TV and movie adaptations usually, so I don't have any affiliations one way or another, but looking at the way DC is going lately... Batman is so faux dark and introspective that it would have even Kurt Cobain yelling at it to cheer the hell up; and now this. At least Marvel's kept its sense of humour. This summer, when I'm watching Robert Downey Jr throw himself repeatedly at a giant flying robot snake, I shall spare a thought for the DC fanboys. Actually I probably won't, as I'll be too busy watching Robert Downey Jr throw himself repeatedly at a giant flying robot snake. But you get the drift. ;)

[crabby_lioness]

I thought that was Fin Fan Foom, but I'm behind in my movie trailers/spoilers.

Although with both the Hulk and Fin Fan Foom there, shouldn't there be some giant purple shorts around somewhere? Everything is better with giant purple shorts. :P

[kiev4am]

Fin Fang Foom will put you in his pants! Now there's a movie tagline.

(god, I miss Nextwave).

[crabby_lioness]

We can dream....

[kiev4am]

I was just reading the comments to the Kelly Thompson piece. Mark Waid high-five, go you :D

You know, quite aside from the political asshattery of it, the other reason this plot is bad is that it's just so incredibly cliched, trite and done. A matriarchal society which is developed, compassionate and functional? Completely unique to comics. A killer tribe of eeeevil naked black-widow-spider sirens? The stuff of hundreds of bad Roger Corman-esque schlock horror comics/b-movies/pulps/fevered manchild fantasies. Creative and imaginative super-fail.

[crabby_lioness]

I was just reading the comments to the Kelly Thompson piece. Mark Waid high-five, go you :D

Thank you. I didn't want to brag, so I stuck the link in a private post to cheer me up on bad days.

You know, quite aside from the political asshattery of it, the other reason this plot is bad is that it's just so incredibly cliched, trite and done.

And done better by some of those B-listers.

[kiev4am]

I saw a few other people saying 'what you said' and praising that post of yours, too. It was a perfectly succinct and exact nailing of the issue :)

I got into a bad temper and posted quite a few things on that thread in the end, even though I almost never do that any more. Some of the responses are so goddamn predictable, it should be funny; these people just see the word 'feminism' and spontaneously go apeshit.

[crabby_lioness]

I’ve been trying to find Steinem’s 1972 essay on Wonder Woman where she says t hat one of the things that makes Diana extra special is that she is not one woman against the world, but that she has sisters who will back her up when she fights the good fight.

Steinem was used to seeing one woman against the world. Hell, she was used to being one woman against the world. But a strong woman who had other strong women who shared her values watching her back was awe-inspiring.

It still is.