Comments | crabby_lioness: DW S604 The Doctor's Wife & S605 The Rebel Flesh

crabby_lioness

DW S604 The Doctor's Wife & S605 The Rebel Flesh

May 22, 2011 23:47

Sorry folks, it's been a busy week and I never found the time to post this first one.

The Doctor's Wife

*big goofy grin*

Called it. *checks date* Almost four years ago to the day I posted a fanfic about the TARDIS being a communication-impaired Goddess who stole away with a Time Lord. Not that I'm saying Neil Gaiman stole the idea from me, or even ( Read more... )

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Comments 39

savfan104 May 23 2011, 06:02:04 UTC

Hm. I didn't even make the connection that it was a Sontaran clone tank.

I guess the Doctor alluded to that when he called it an early stage of a technology. I should've caught that, I've seen the episode in NuWho with one...

crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 09:31:09 UTC

Probably the same one, in both the story and from the prop department.

wight1984 May 23 2011, 06:15:41 UTC

I could understand suggesting that it uses some general sci-fi tropes (then again, what sci-fi show doesn't?) but the idea that it's anything like a close rip off of Star Trek seems a bit of a stretch.

The fact that there is more than one thing going on at once that aren't directly connected? Hardly specific to Star Trek. Also, the Tardis didn't seem to be in any danger, it was just inaccessible.

I wouldn't have said that the clones did look like Odo, although they had similar body-twisting abilities but you could say that of Mr Fantastic from the Fantastic Five.

And the fact that the episodes 'monsters' aren't actually monsters that are out doing evil for evil's sake but just people with their own agenda is something I wish Who would do more of. Certainly less over-used than the monsters who actually are monsters, which is a trope I'm more or less sick of.

And I'm not sure we can complain seriously too much about re-use of props in a show that re-uses actors :oP

crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 09:25:01 UTC

I could understand suggesting that it uses some general sci-fi tropes (then again, what sci-fi show doesn't?) but the idea that it's anything like a close rip off of Star Trek seems a bit of a stretch.

STC was the first to overuse them.

The fact that there is more than one thing going on at once that aren't directly connected? Hardly specific to Star Trek.

Once again, STC was the first to overuse it, making it a bad trope that's nearly 50 years old.

I wouldn't have said that the clones did look like Odo, although they had similar body-twisting abilities but you could say that of Mr Fantastic from the Fantastic Five.

Odo pioneered the plasticy face.

And I'm not sure we can complain seriously too much about re-use of props in a show that re-uses actors

You must be mistaking my review for someone else's. The reuse of the clone tank was the best part of the show, but it needed, no deserved a better plot to go with it.

wight1984 May 23 2011, 16:32:19 UTC

I think the problem is that the tropes you're talking about are so basic that it's not surprising that they're going to crop up over and over again.

crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 20:46:13 UTC

Well of course. My point is, why re-use a bad trope that people have been holding up as an example of bad genre writing for 40 years? I remember reading essays dissecting the C-level multiple meaningless threats tropes from Star Trek back in the 70s, complete with the writers begging people never to use it again. I couldn't believe that a show as good as this would resort to something that substandard.

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scarletcroft May 23 2011, 07:43:56 UTC

I didn't think it was that bad, but then again I never minded a bit of cliché ( ... )

crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 09:29:41 UTC

I never minded a bit of cliché.

I don't mind a good cliche, but these are bad cliches writers and fans have been making fun of for two generations.

Will the copy doctor survive?

IIRC the Sontaran clones were intended for short-term espionage and weren't made to last. That would explain their instability. I doubt they'd make it a month.

cscottd May 23 2011, 07:59:53 UTC

Some ideas are simply too beautiful not to be true.

So true.

My first Doctor Who drabble (back in 2005) was written from the point-of-view of the TARDIS. :)

I really like that you had the TARDIS "steal" the Doctor (something that I never thought of, until I saw The Doctor's Wife).

crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 09:45:41 UTC

My first Doctor Who drabble (back in 2005) was written from the point-of-view of the TARDIS. :)

That's a lovely story.

I really like that you had the TARDIS "steal" the Doctor

Herself has Her own POV, which doesn't always agree with the Doctor's. ;)

rip-off? crayford May 23 2011, 10:13:21 UTC

All sci-fi and fantasy shows/movies have episodes thay have simliar themes and things.

Re: rip-off? crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 10:23:50 UTC

Yes, and nobody much minds when they rip off the good things. But why in the Seven Hells rip off the bad things?

Re: rip-off? crayford May 23 2011, 10:39:20 UTC

I thought ripping off BSG and Frankenstein was good.

Re: rip-off? crabby_lioness May 23 2011, 12:56:01 UTC

I haven't watched the latest BSG. I'm told it's an improvement, and if so yay.

I've never seen a Frankenstein movie that wasn't a bad ripoff of the book.

Doctor Who made a bad ripoff of a bad plot format. Nothing good was accomplished.