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bodhichitta0 September 3 2005, 12:59:09 UTC
That Charmaine Neville thing...Jesus.

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fairies_exist September 3 2005, 13:38:18 UTC

god, hearing these things makes me cry so much for those poor people, stuck in this hell that they cant get out of. i hope that bush will finally get the troops out of iraq and focus on the holocaust happening in his own country.

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bacardibreezer7 September 3 2005, 14:17:35 UTC
All this reminds me of when Babylon attacked Jerusalem in the Bible. Really, it does. It was this wonderful city but then Babylon brought it totally to it's knees, most people died from the initial attack but then there was a siege and everyone else starved to death or died of sickness. Mothers ended up eating their own babies...the sort of reports we're getting here, it feels like something out of the Bible. I know in other disasters around the world things were this bad too, but each time you hear it it doesn't make it easier. Charmaine Neville's story brought me to tears.

And by the way, who the fuck roams around in gangs raping and killing women and children at a time like this? ASSHOLES.

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hippydippymama September 3 2005, 20:45:01 UTC
Tell me about it...

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chorusgirl September 3 2005, 14:33:33 UTC
People in America always talk about the South Africa child-rape crisis like it's completely barbaric. It's happening here.

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when_it_rained September 5 2005, 05:43:14 UTC
It's happening here.

...that doesn't make it any less barbaric, though.

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chorusgirl September 5 2005, 23:25:02 UTC
oh, I know. I didn't mean to downplay it; but it's hypocritical that we're like "That's so bad, that's so bad" but we don't try to stop it here.

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when_it_rained September 6 2005, 00:20:05 UTC
Agreed.

The USA is 'supposed' to be a place where stuff like that just doesn't happen. And when it does happen, it's just so dismaying to see that they aren't making *every possible effort* to keep it from ever happening again. People seem to prefer to turn a blind eye or something... which is terribly depressing.

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w0rdinista September 3 2005, 14:43:24 UTC
"Maybe it was punishment for what it did to Iraq, which has a man-made disaster, not a natural disaster," said the woman, who did not want to be named as she has an American manager.

"A lot of the people I work with think this way. We spoke about it just the other day," she said.

I'm sorry, but using this logic implies the Indonesia did something that warranted being "punished" with a tsunami.

In that vein, extreme right-wing Christians are suggesting that God was "punishing" New Orleans for being a haven for homosexuals: http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/08/083105nola.htm

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bell_witch September 3 2005, 15:06:11 UTC
In that vein, extreme right-wing Christians are suggesting that God was "punishing" New Orleans for being a haven for homosexuals

They would.

This whole thing is making me ill. It's just like rich, white people to blame the poor, black people for not being able to get away. Let's see, no car, no money, no place to go, and they're supposed to leave how?

I know there are poor white people in NOLA, too. And threatening to kill people just because they're white isn't going to help.

The wealthy politicians do very little. The ordinary people who are closer to the bottom seem to be doing much better at helping.

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w0rdinista September 3 2005, 15:21:01 UTC
But that's the thing -- they weren't given enough time, and it looks like they had next-to-nothing in the way of evacuation centers. I know a lot of people who thought the Superdome was a way bad idea, but it was the only idea they (state/local officials) had.

Around these parts (east coast of Central Florida), lots of places are set up as evacuation centers -- elementary schools, high schools, community colleges, rec centers. We have evacuation routes. There are places available for people to go. Some of them allow pets, others don't, some are for people who have medical needs. Some have facilities like cots and food and water for people, others require you to bring your own. These people had very little choice in the matter because (a) they had no time to plan and (b) the state/local authorities had very little in the way of a plan.

In all honesty, it really seems as if the state/local government just never believed they'd ever have to contend with a storm of that magnitude.

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bell_witch September 4 2005, 12:39:38 UTC
I don't blame the people who got stuck. Your local area has it together. Even if they didn't have that sort of thing set up in advance (and I don't know why they didn't), you'd think with the warning time--they saw a huge storm coming) that they'd have had things waiting, both the state and the federal government ( ... )

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