So, am I missing something?

Feb 09, 2008 11:10

I get that Jesus was the greatest man who ever lived. wee count the years from the time he was born. he never wrote a book , or had any wealth, founded no great lasting dynasty ( Read more... )

literalism, creationism, flood, noah

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mlfoley February 9 2008, 11:54:24 UTC
However, both Jesus and Paul repeatedly cite the Old Testament stories as being factual accounts. Paul draws his doctrine of "the fall" directly from a literal reading of Genesis. Jesus treats the Pentateuch as being actually written by Moses rather than being a compilation from four sources as most textual criticism scholars today agree that it is. Jesus also treated the story of Noah as being factual, and his rules on divorce assume that the first few chapters of Genesis are literally true.

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agent_fisher_v2 February 9 2008, 12:23:00 UTC
That's true. As a Christian you are obliged to believe the whole Bible, not just parts of it you like.

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lordhellebore February 9 2008, 12:35:07 UTC
Before you make such a statement, I'd like you to define "believe the Bible".

Do you mean literally believeing every word that is written in it as absolute factual truth? Or do you mean believing that everything in the Bible is important because it tells us something about God, even if it is written in a way the people of that time could understand, but which by now is shown by science is not factual truth, like for example Genesis? Genesis tells us an inerrant truth by stating that it was God who created the heavens and the earth and all life on it. The 7-days-thing, that's not the important thing to believe here.

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agent_fisher_v2 February 9 2008, 13:06:02 UTC
I mean literally believing every word, yes.

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You do not need to believe in Noah's Ark to be saved... susannah February 9 2008, 13:16:56 UTC
Thank you. An excellent post ( ... )

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pastorlenny February 9 2008, 15:54:34 UTC
Based on the argument constructed on point 1, it would probably make more sense to list Johannes Gutenberg, Gugliemo Marconi, and Philo Farnsworth as the three most influential human beings in history. Actually, I believe that every day more people worship at the altar of St. Philo than have ever set foot in a church.

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pastorlenny February 9 2008, 16:08:17 UTC
I really hate that Gore takes credit for my invention all the time. But I'm still not sure that this crazy Internet thing the kids are doing will ever go anywhere really.

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