Pretty spot on review/recap! I did enjoy the whole thing enormously. I got a tad inattentive during some of the Mary Cas parts, and did a tiny bit of handwaving about the plot points you've highlighted as weak, but most of the episode I was clapping like a seal and laughing out loud. Even Mick's dreadful accent didn't throw me so much this time.
I was, however, gutted they've now killed both Death and Billie! I didn't want Mary to die (yet) either so that was a bummer all round really. Still, I'm quite excited about the rest of the season.
Absolutely! I bet I'm not the only one who could have watched a whole season of hunted Winchesters being BAMF in the woods! Or the only fangirl thinking they missed a trick in this episode by failing to undress the two corpses for their autopsies... LOL
Despite all the necessary hand waving, I loved it right up until the bastards killed Billie. And then I thought: Caranfindel is going to be sooooooooooo pissed!
So pissed about Billie, aaaaagh! So much potential there and then it's just gone. I really thought there was going to be more to her story (it never did hint at why for all her insisting she wanted them gone, every single time she showed up it was to help them...)
I do think the reason neither Dean nor Sam immediately jumps forward to off themselves is that they're both waiting for the other to move first, in order to stop them. It's no good for Dean to shoot himself in the head if Sam does it simultaneously.
...That, or they actually both have enough inside them now that wants to live to hesitate, if only for a moment. But I think it's more they were waiting to stop the other's move.
...But Billie, though, how could you, Andrew Dabb?
I do think the reason neither Dean nor Sam immediately jumps forward to off themselves is that they're both waiting for the other to move first, in order to stop them. It's no good for Dean to shoot himself in the head if Sam does it simultaneously.
He would have punched Sam and then quickly offed himself, I think.
I hate that they killed Billie, for so many reasons, but mostly because I liked her. I mean she's just a Reaper who wants one Winchester ANY Winchester to freaking STAY DEAD already. Also, it's not just consequences, they were told it's COSMIC consequences, unlike when Sam removed the Mark of Cain where he was told there would be consequences by not how high the stakes were. Why would the Winchesters make this deal? I know six weeks in solitary confinement would be hellish. I'm a raging introvert and it would still be a nightmare. But these guys have lived through literal Hell. And they broke after six weeks? Without trying anything else? Without trying to break out at all? Without ever praying to Cas? That's just really unlikely, I think.I think that they didn't break for themselves but each one broke to save the other one from the mental torture. IRL solitary confinement is worse than physical torture, people literally go insane https://www.afsc.org
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I think that they didn't break for themselves but each one broke to save the other one from the mental torture.
And that would make sense, but if that's what they were going for, I wish the script had at least hinted at it.
I don't know why praying to Cas isn't a thing, but maybe they decided Cas is as useless as he thinks he is.
Even if he was useless, they could at least let him know they were alive somewhere.
I too pictured a long game of Rock/Paper/Scissors with them tying time after time until Dean just cold cocked Sam and took himself out.
LOL!
I guess we are supposed to forget that ENTIRE episode back in season 4 where Alistair had to go through a huge ceremony and use the right tools (I can't remember what, except it WASN'T an angel sword) to kill a Reaper.
Oh, wow, even I forgot about that. Maybe he had to go through all that because he didn't have access to an angel blade. Yeah, that's gotta be it. ;)
Ah but Season 4 was way before they decided that reapers were in fact angels and we all know angels are easy to kill. Convenient, hey? I suppose now if someone was to point this out to the present crop of writers they'd come up with some excuse, like Alastair didn't need to go through all that rigmarole solely to kill the reapers, it was all part of the breaking the seal thing.
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I was, however, gutted they've now killed both Death and Billie! I didn't want Mary to die (yet) either so that was a bummer all round really. Still, I'm quite excited about the rest of the season.
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I do think the reason neither Dean nor Sam immediately jumps forward to off themselves is that they're both waiting for the other to move first, in order to stop them. It's no good for Dean to shoot himself in the head if Sam does it simultaneously.
...That, or they actually both have enough inside them now that wants to live to hesitate, if only for a moment. But I think it's more they were waiting to stop the other's move.
...But Billie, though, how could you, Andrew Dabb?
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He would have punched Sam and then quickly offed himself, I think.
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Why would the Winchesters make this deal? I know six weeks in solitary confinement would be hellish. I'm a raging introvert and it would still be a nightmare. But these guys have lived through literal Hell. And they broke after six weeks? Without trying anything else? Without trying to break out at all? Without ever praying to Cas? That's just really unlikely, I think.I think that they didn't break for themselves but each one broke to save the other one from the mental torture. IRL solitary confinement is worse than physical torture, people literally go insane https://www.afsc.org ( ... )
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And that would make sense, but if that's what they were going for, I wish the script had at least hinted at it.
I don't know why praying to Cas isn't a thing, but maybe they decided Cas is as useless as he thinks he is.
Even if he was useless, they could at least let him know they were alive somewhere.
I too pictured a long game of Rock/Paper/Scissors with them tying time after time until Dean just cold cocked Sam and took himself out.
LOL!
I guess we are supposed to forget that ENTIRE episode back in season 4 where Alistair had to go through a huge ceremony and use the right tools (I can't remember what, except it WASN'T an angel sword) to kill a Reaper.
Oh, wow, even I forgot about that. Maybe he had to go through all that because he didn't have access to an angel blade. Yeah, that's gotta be it. ;)
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