the route thing I have going on, since reading Ferguson's bookgsyhFebruary 23 2009, 02:44:55 UTC
Accurate impressions or not, this is how I remember how many PMs there were and who went first, it's like the Divorced-Beheaded-Died-Divorced-Beheaded-Survived thing with the Henry wives.
At present, I remember; John A. Macdonald, founder of country and railway (George E. Cartier, the other half of the government, and unofficial co-pm especially when JAM is druuuunk) Mackenzie too honest for politics Abbott the fill-in Thompson the short-lived Bowell the betrayed Tupper because he struck around Laurier the first French Borden WWI Meighen the unpopular Mackenzie King the seance guy Uncle Louis after the war Bennet-Bennet-mobile Dief the Chief who axed the avro Pearson nobel peace prize Pierre Trudeau constitution Joe Clark too decent for politics Turner the broken record dummy Brian the Lying Brian Kim Just Like Him Jean Poutine (well he is a mess and he left a mess)
Re: the route thing I have going on, since reading Ferguson's booksuitablyemonameFebruary 23 2009, 06:29:19 UTC
Mmm.
McDonald Mackenzie McDonald Bunch of Tories who you shouldn't even try to keep straight, none of who lasted more than a few months. Laurier Borden Meighen King Meighen (King-Byng Affair.) King Bennett King King King King King King St. Laurent Diefenbaker Pearson Trudeau Clark (winter-semester internship) Trudeau Turner Mulroney Campbell (as a summer job) Chretien Martin Harper --> You Are Here <--
Oh, I'm hardly saying that they are the samegsyhFebruary 23 2009, 02:50:14 UTC
People are always different, they certainly have different political ambitions, the substance as well as the scale, but in terms of their style, how they treat people, I see some similarities.
I think it might actually be possible that Harper has a warmer personality than Trudeau when it comes to people they know very well...Trudeau was very intolerant of Margaret's weaknesses, etc, on the other hand, the Harpers actually seem to have a more equal relationship. People say that Harper is COLD, but considering all the nerds I knew back in high school, I think he''s actually socially awkward as opposed to cold.
edited from the last commentgsyhFebruary 24 2009, 00:50:47 UTC
Aye aye, I never get the "which candidate you would rather have a beer with" thing down in states...for one thing, would you trust the people you get drunk with to drive you home
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Harper's certainly happier there than I'm used to seeing him! Probably because he's typically having to defend himself on one issue or another; here, he gets to pitch his view of the Canadian-American relationship, and he gets to be connected to a person who is very popular in Canada - more popular than Harper himself. He's understandably more relaxed in an interview where he isn't under attack
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Actually, there's more to the Diefenbaker comparison than you might be comfortable admitting.
For one thing, I really do get the sense that Harper will remain in power and at the helm of the party for as long as possible, come hell or high water. He will eventually have to have it pried from his cold, dead hands. So it was with Dief. There is no succession plan, there is no charismatic leader waiting in the wings, there is no high-ranking cabinet minister or team of strong equals: there is Harper, and we are told there may or may not be a cabinet supporting him, but we really don't know, do we.
I'd call it a cult of personality, but it's not much of a personality, is it.
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At present, I remember;
John A. Macdonald, founder of country and railway
(George E. Cartier, the other half of the government, and unofficial co-pm especially when JAM is druuuunk)
Mackenzie too honest for politics
Abbott the fill-in
Thompson the short-lived
Bowell the betrayed
Tupper because he struck around
Laurier the first French
Borden WWI
Meighen the unpopular
Mackenzie King the seance guy
Uncle Louis after the war
Bennet-Bennet-mobile
Dief the Chief who axed the avro
Pearson nobel peace prize
Pierre Trudeau constitution
Joe Clark too decent for politics
Turner the broken record dummy
Brian the Lying Brian
Kim Just Like Him
Jean Poutine (well he is a mess and he left a mess)
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McDonald
Mackenzie
McDonald
Bunch of Tories who you shouldn't even try to keep straight, none of who lasted more than a few months.
Laurier
Borden
Meighen
King
Meighen (King-Byng Affair.)
King
Bennett
King
King
King
King
King
King
St. Laurent
Diefenbaker
Pearson
Trudeau
Clark (winter-semester internship)
Trudeau
Turner
Mulroney
Campbell (as a summer job)
Chretien
Martin
Harper
--> You Are Here <--
All from memory. History++. :)
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I think it might actually be possible that Harper has a warmer personality than Trudeau when it comes to people they know very well...Trudeau was very intolerant of Margaret's weaknesses, etc, on the other hand, the Harpers actually seem to have a more equal relationship. People say that Harper is COLD, but considering all the nerds I knew back in high school, I think he''s actually socially awkward as opposed to cold.
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For one thing, I really do get the sense that Harper will remain in power and at the helm of the party for as long as possible, come hell or high water. He will eventually have to have it pried from his cold, dead hands. So it was with Dief. There is no succession plan, there is no charismatic leader waiting in the wings, there is no high-ranking cabinet minister or team of strong equals: there is Harper, and we are told there may or may not be a cabinet supporting him, but we really don't know, do we.
I'd call it a cult of personality, but it's not much of a personality, is it.
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