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[mijopo]

Recently it's been my impression that the level of discourse in this group has deteriorated badly in terms of i) the presence of personal attacks and generally hateful comments and (ii) the quality of arguments

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[penlessej]

Also remember that this group is not a soap box to proclaim your own political views. It is a place to bring up what you read in the news, what you hear on tv or how you perceive something going on or that has happened and getting the opinions and perceptions of those around you. There has been a string of posts this past month that scream manifesto as opposed to a push to get the ball rolling on some good discourse in politics.

[neoneoism]

I didn't know bumper sticker arguments were welcome here, but if so, then here's Frederick Mosteller: "It's easy to lie with statistics. But it is easier to lie without them." I've previously quoted Milo Schield to similar effect:When those who are statistically illiterate misread a statistic, they tend to blame the statistic and not themselves. Most statistics are true; most statistics are not lies. When one misreads the meaning of a statistical claim, it is most tempting to say that statistics lie. But that judgment is often misplaced. All too often, it is the reader who misinterpreted what the statistic meant.

[wyliekat]

Word.