not drifting, just waiting

Jan 14, 2011 11:20

I feel a bit sorry for those of you I recently added as friends since this is the first post you're getting, but it's overdue and I have been promising it for ages. Truth be told, this post is mostly an exercise in giving my side-Tumblr a rest, because I use it far too many times to rant about various aspects of
Doctor Who, its fandom, and do so in ( Read more... )

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flowerings January 14 2011, 19:22:41 UTC
AHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL and I need to legit post my thoughts on your meta, but I have to say this is stunning first. I am so glad you wrote this, because it is just lovely and perfect and GOD KALIE WHY DO YOU DO ME THIS WAY? :')

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flowerings January 14 2011, 19:24:56 UTC
Actually, I don't know what I could say. You have covered everything so thoroughly.

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calikalie January 14 2011, 19:31:39 UTC
I AM SO GLAD YOU APPROVE. I initially wanted to write more and there were a few things I wanted to expand on, but whatever. Parts of this ended up getting away from me, as you well know. Still, I'm glad I wrote it. :)

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flowerings January 14 2011, 19:33:53 UTC
It was everything I ever wanted from Doctor Who meta. It is stellar, and I wouldn't have minded if you went on farther. This is actually a big deal for me, since my eyes tend to glaze over when I read anything longer than three pages on the Internet.

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crazyumbrellas January 14 2011, 19:27:01 UTC
I'm still reading this and I just finished your Reinette portion and I love it and you stated everything I adored about her. Somethings I did momentarily forget since it's been so long since I saw that episode but I also love the scene in the ballroom(?) and she's just so brave when addressing all those people around her.

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crazyumbrellas January 14 2011, 19:43:36 UTC
SO I JUST FINISHED I LOVE EVERYTHING. YOU COVERED LIKE, EVERYTHING. And oh my gosh I am still like, shocked they considered not keeping that apple scene because it is perfect and my very favorite scene in the premiere.

"She joins UNIT because she wants to keep defending the Earth long after the Doctor has left and she wants to help make the organization better by working from the inside to change it."

I love this. Actually, it is such a pattern with my absolute favorite television ladies in general. Generally, just working to make the world a better place. And just so much what I love about Martha is how much she cares for people. Even in those Dalek episodes I couldn't hate it because she was just her stunning, caring self.

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calikalie January 14 2011, 20:06:34 UTC
Thanks so much! I was so surprised when they mentioned in the commentary that they weren't going to keep the apple scene in. Even their first cut of the episode didn't include it, because they felt it slowed down the action too much. Thankfully, they changed their minds, because it's probably my favorite scene from the premiere as well. That, and the last eight or so minutes, which are just brilliant.

Even in those Dalek episodes I couldn't hate it because she was just her stunning, caring self.

Martha was so great in those episodes, especially the second half where she assumes the Doctor role for a bit and works to get shit done. She's definitely the bright spot for me when it comes to that two-parter. And this is why I can't hate "The Last of the Time Lords" like a lot of people seem to. She's too fierce and fabulous and all-out wonderful in that episode for me to hate it.

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crazyumbrellas January 14 2011, 20:14:42 UTC
I am going to re-watch "The Girl in the Fireplace" again later because this post just reminded me again of how much I loved it. And also, it is so pretty. I need to watch it on Netflix since the only series I own is series 5. And also re: River Song. The hypocrisy fandom generally has for her really drives me up the wall, especially when in comparison to Ten.

Like, the issue I have with "The Last of the Time Lords" is just how the plot wrapped up but Martha is just so flawless and Freema is perfect. I mean, the girl essentially was a legend. Everything I love about Martha was all in those last two episodes.

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eatingthepeach January 14 2011, 19:35:46 UTC
Omg omg omg, this looks amazing. I am ready to dive in and read all of it. I LOVE OPINIONS.

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calikalie January 15 2011, 00:36:30 UTC
Yay! I'm a big lover of opinions as well, even when I don't always agree, mostly because some people have the ability to lay them out in a way that might make me take another look at my own.

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etzyofi January 14 2011, 19:37:31 UTC
I'm not that into Doctor Who, sadly (I should try it again), but I agree with everything you've said here because I've seen it in my own main fandoms, especially Harry Potter. It's really sad that female fans just jump to calling a character slutty or bitchy.

It seems like Doctor Who is a very feminist show. The female characters I've seen in my limited exposure were all strong, kick ass, and interesting. And from what I've seen of Amy's outfits, she didn't show as much skin as Rose, for example. And who cares? They're WOMEN and they want to show off what they've got! Oh fandom hypocrites.

Thank you for posting these insightful analyses. You've really piqued my interest and I'm definitely going to try Doctor Who again.

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calikalie January 15 2011, 00:43:58 UTC
That's perfectly fine if you're not all that into Doctor Who! It's definitely one of those shows that might be more of an acquired taste for some people, because it can be a bit silly and add at times. But a part of me hopes that you do eventually catch up if you ever want to try again, because I especially adored the latest series (series five).

I wouldn't necessarily go so far to say that it's a feminist show (and I think this post that I discovered on Tumblr helps pinpoint for me why), but you're absolutely spot on about there being no shortage of competent, wonderful, interesting female characters. I agree with you also on Amy's outfits. They aren't nearly as bad as I've seen some people make them out to be. She dresses age-appropriately. Hell, even Rose donned short skirts on a couple of occasions, but I don't recall her getting flack for it. Still, the whole point is that the wardrobe shouldn't even be an issue and it doesn't make her a "less credible" character because she chooses to wear mini-skirts sometimes. Yeesh ( ... )

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rememberedenx3 January 14 2011, 19:53:36 UTC
This is beautiful, thanks for writing this! I love every one of these women & it's wonderful that you took the time to write why they're all so BAMF <33 Martha & Amy

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calikalie January 15 2011, 00:45:27 UTC
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed reading :D

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