If Sam was female and Ruby was inhabiting a male body, and the exact same lines and reactions took place how would the situation read? Who would be doing what to whom? Exactly! If we'd had Samantha the hunter and Rufus the demon, the wank storm would have reached the moon. It's already bad enough this way. It's like sex cannot be used, ever, in a story, unless as an expression of twu wuwe, otherwise it's Made Of Fail *ponders* Is this an American prudish thing? I am honestly asking.
I didn't notice the "I made sure the spirit was gone", but now that you point it out O.o so true!
I have a HUGE response typed up for this but the browser crashed loading something in the background *smacks Safari*
It's like sex cannot be used, ever, in a story, unless as an expression of twu wuwe, otherwise it's Made Of Fail *ponders*
I think sexual activity can be used in a story do demonstrate character, character development, plot points, any number of things, and not necessarily 'twu wuv' even when it claims to. It's just that usually it's being used as a fast, cheap way to show emotional closeness between characters or to tittilate the audience. And really, I don't think either is the case here, I think it does reveal how desperate and wrecked Sam is at that point, and how intent Ruby is on forging that connection to him.
Is this an American prudish thing? I am honestly asking.
Well, I'm not American, so I can't speak to that, but Canada shares a cutural background with the US, sort of, with several variations. I don't think it's any kind of a cultural thing, really. *shrugs*
I didn't notice the "I made sure the spirit
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-"So far all you've told me about is a manipulative bitch who screwed you, played mind-games with you and did everything in the book to get you to go bad." YES EXACTLY! THANK YOU DEAN!!!
YES YES YES. I do not trust Ruby. Not at all. I wish I wasn't getting mixed signals from TPTB about whether or not we're suppposed to see her as Untrustworthy Manipulative Bitch vs. Misunderstood Demon with a Heart of Gold. Because the first one I can get behind and enjoy disliking Ruby, and the second option just... doesn't work for me. I have hope, but it's not strong and confident in this regard. But oh well. I can just handwave the second tier character to the background in my mind and focus on Teh Boyz. Makes everything better. :)
I wish I wasn't getting mixed signals from TPTB about whether or not we're suppposed to see her as Untrustworthy Manipulative Bitch vs. Misunderstood Demon with a Heart of Gold.
I think it's Untrustworthy Manipulative Bitch fronting as a Misunderstood Demon with a Heart of Gold, myself. No reason she can't be both.
Considering what you've been writing lately, I would have been surprised if you didn't! :-)
I hadn't thought about all those biological things the human body takes care of on its own. Eeeew.
It's a busy biological process, a human bodyt is. Look at how long it takes a human child to learn things, (speaking, walking, personal hygiene and so forth) and that's without consciously running their autonomic systems. Ruby probably can't walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
Okay, you're millions of episodes further on, but having just seen 4.09 and read your post on it, here's my response.
600 seals of which any 66 breaking raise Lucifer?? Whoa! They really are screwed!
Yep, this has freaked me out. Because if they have no idea which ones of the 600 … But it has made me wonder why there weren’t 666 seals. Or maybe the 666 is the combination of the 600 and the 66. But the 66 are part of the 600, and not in addition to them.
But anyway, point is, they’re screwed!
*GLEE* POOL SHARKING! TEAM WINCHESTER POOL SHARKING FTW!!!!
I loved this. Especially the exchange of looks between the boys.
Anna Milton? As in Milton Milton? Are you kidding me!? That's fantastic! Hey tigriswolf did you catch that? :-D
I picked this up - and instantly texted yasminke.
"Sure, Dean, let's trade stories." Wow, Sam. You're being a bit of an ass.
No, massively frustrated little brother who just wants Dean to goddamn share!
Totally. They had to do something like this to explain why the angels werent just camping out at one or two seals to stop Lillith from getting them all.
No, massively frustrated little brother who just wants Dean to goddamn share!
Well, yeah... I guess being caring and sensitive about it isn't the Winchester way. I also saw it as a bit of a defensive thing, though, to get Dean to shut down his line of questioning by poking a sore spot.
I was guessing that this was a reference to the “real” Revelations rather than what Bobby called the tourist version. *don’t think about actual biblical interpretation; don’t think about actual biblical interpretation*
Hee! Yeah, that way lies great pain, I think.
*wants to get on ImmortalJournal to remind angels about faith, hope and forgiveness*
I really want to know what you think of some upcoming (for you) episodes.
Does this mean that all bleeding statues actually signal the approach of demons? ‘Cos that’s scary.I doubt it, just this one in particular
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*wants to get on ImmortalJournal to remind angels about faith, hope and forgiveness* I really want to know what you think of some upcoming (for you) episodes.
I'm really worried! Because for me if you're bringing in angels and the probability of God then there should be more faith, hope, love and forgiveness - those being mandatory when God's involved. But Show seems to be going in the opposite direction - there was more light around when there were just demons and Sam's tiny sliver of hope in something more.
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I didn't notice the "I made sure the spirit was gone", but now that you point it out O.o so true!
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It's like sex cannot be used, ever, in a story, unless as an expression of twu wuwe, otherwise it's Made Of Fail *ponders*
I think sexual activity can be used in a story do demonstrate character, character development, plot points, any number of things, and not necessarily 'twu wuv' even when it claims to. It's just that usually it's being used as a fast, cheap way to show emotional closeness between characters or to tittilate the audience. And really, I don't think either is the case here, I think it does reveal how desperate and wrecked Sam is at that point, and how intent Ruby is on forging that connection to him.
Is this an American prudish thing? I am honestly asking.
Well, I'm not American, so I can't speak to that, but Canada shares a cutural background with the US, sort of, with several variations. I don't think it's any kind of a cultural thing, really. *shrugs*
I didn't notice the "I made sure the spirit ( ... )
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*headsplode* Language is insufficient to express how much I hate it when that happens!
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YES YES YES. I do not trust Ruby. Not at all. I wish I wasn't getting mixed signals from TPTB about whether or not we're suppposed to see her as Untrustworthy Manipulative Bitch vs. Misunderstood Demon with a Heart of Gold. Because the first one I can get behind and enjoy disliking Ruby, and the second option just... doesn't work for me. I have hope, but it's not strong and confident in this regard. But oh well. I can just handwave the second tier character to the background in my mind and focus on Teh Boyz. Makes everything better. :)
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I think it's Untrustworthy Manipulative Bitch fronting as a Misunderstood Demon with a Heart of Gold, myself. No reason she can't be both.
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I hadn't thought about all those biological things the human body takes care of on its own. Eeeew.
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Considering what you've been writing lately, I would have been surprised if you didn't! :-)
I hadn't thought about all those biological things the human body takes care of on its own. Eeeew.
It's a busy biological process, a human bodyt is. Look at how long it takes a human child to learn things, (speaking, walking, personal hygiene and so forth) and that's without consciously running their autonomic systems. Ruby probably can't walk and chew gum at the same time right now.
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600 seals of which any 66 breaking raise Lucifer?? Whoa! They really are screwed!
Yep, this has freaked me out. Because if they have no idea which ones of the 600 … But it has made me wonder why there weren’t 666 seals. Or maybe the 666 is the combination of the 600 and the 66. But the 66 are part of the 600, and not in addition to them.
But anyway, point is, they’re screwed!
*GLEE* POOL SHARKING! TEAM WINCHESTER POOL SHARKING FTW!!!!
I loved this. Especially the exchange of looks between the boys.
Anna Milton? As in Milton Milton? Are you kidding me!? That's fantastic! Hey tigriswolf did you catch that? :-D
I picked this up - and instantly texted yasminke.
"Sure, Dean, let's trade stories." Wow, Sam. You're being a bit of an ass.
No, massively frustrated little brother who just wants Dean to goddamn share!
Ohhh crossroads. Oh really drunk Sam.
YES!!!!!! Poor Sammy!
Ooo. He's made peace with his lord. ( ... )
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Totally. They had to do something like this to explain why the angels werent just camping out at one or two seals to stop Lillith from getting them all.
No, massively frustrated little brother who just wants Dean to goddamn share!
Well, yeah... I guess being caring and sensitive about it isn't the Winchester way. I also saw it as a bit of a defensive thing, though, to get Dean to shut down his line of questioning by poking a sore spot.
I was guessing that this was a reference to the “real” Revelations rather than what Bobby called the tourist version. *don’t think about actual biblical interpretation; don’t think about actual biblical interpretation*
Hee! Yeah, that way lies great pain, I think.
*wants to get on ImmortalJournal to remind angels about faith, hope and forgiveness*
I really want to know what you think of some upcoming (for you) episodes.
Does this mean that all bleeding statues actually signal the approach of demons? ‘Cos that’s scary.I doubt it, just this one in particular ( ... )
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I really want to know what you think of some upcoming (for you) episodes.
I'm really worried! Because for me if you're bringing in angels and the probability of God then there should be more faith, hope, love and forgiveness - those being mandatory when God's involved. But Show seems to be going in the opposite direction - there was more light around when there were just demons and Sam's tiny sliver of hope in something more.
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