Comments | cadhla: ...and next up, death.

cadhla

...and next up, death.

May 14, 2004 19:34

Allergic reactions are bad.

( What follows is TMI of the extremely unpleasant sort. Please do not click if it's going to bother you. )

illness, food

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fireriven May 14 2004, 22:20:58 UTC

Grah! I'm glad you're still alive... you better continue getting better!

vaspider May 14 2004, 22:27:59 UTC

I hug you.

jemyl May 14 2004, 22:32:51 UTC

Awwww That sucks big time! I have some food allergies, though not quite so violent, so I understand. So many people don't believe us when we say we absolutely cannot have certain things. One thought--- maybe the pizza had red sauce or pepperoni on it and that caused what looked like blood in the vomit? I hope so.. If you are very much better in a couple of hours, please go to the ER. Anaphalactic shock is not pleasant so watch for feeling of your throat swelling or any such ( ... )

pbristow May 15 2004, 00:22:19 UTC

I appreciate you're trying to reassure, but I think the following is misplaced/misguided. (And its something I feel strongly enough about that I'm prepared to risk upsetting you and cadhla by mentioning it here, which might (quite reasonably) be seen as rather crass of me. Sorry in advance for the upset, but I still think it needs saying.)

Having had an out of body near-death or actually death and back experience, I can tell you that dieing isn't so bad.I'm obliged to point out that this simply means that what your (physical, and that point de-activated) brain is able to remember *after* your experience "isn't so bad". There's no way of knowing what your "self" was going through at the time, or would have subsequently gone through. There's also good evidence (or so I understand - can't point to references off hand) that the common features of people's memories of near-death experiences are simply the effects of the sequence in which particular bits of the brain tend to shut down. The last thing your memory gets to record is a blissed-out ( ... )

jemyl May 15 2004, 22:43:28 UTC

Sorry, but we will have to agree to disagree on this one. You write as if we have all of this wonderful knowledge of the brain and, in truth, we know very little about it. I think that your theory, and that is what it is, falls down because if it is true then we do not know what is happening to us at any given moment in time ( ... )

pbristow May 16 2004, 05:57:42 UTC

I think we're actually more in agreement than you realise. My basic point was: We just don't *know* what's really going on in death. The theory I quoted (and it is exactly that: A theory, with so far just enough supporting evidence to render it not easily dissmissible, but nowhere near enough to actually prove it) was one example to illustrate that point. We don't know that it's true, or that it's false, but it's plausible enough and well enough supported that it casts significant doubt on the evidential value of people's recollections of near-death experiences ( ... )

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Thanks for not dying. patoadam May 14 2004, 23:35:52 UTC

Thanks for not dying.

What jemyl said: You have too much to give to the world to leave it now.

pbristow May 14 2004, 23:54:39 UTC

[WINCE] [DELICATE HUG] =:o{

Very glad you're still here.

Why is just when my life is going so well, everyone else is going through misery?